I honestly think we started both the Halifax and Sheffield games well, that is the annoying thing. We looked to have a game plan and acted professionally and kept composed.

The problem seems to be that as soon as something goes wrong for us, eg. we concede a good try or don't get a referees call, our heads go down. Our confidence must be dreadfully low for this to happen.

I'm not sure whether it's because we've got a young squad but the first thing that goes when we start getting into this mentality is their discipline. They try and force an error by trying to dislodge the ball or darting out of the line. This isn't the way to win the arm-wrestle. Hard work and back-to-basics play is much more effective and less risky. A few experienced heads and proven winners would solve this.

We're used to seeing in the squads of old the ability to change the flow of a game whilst it's going on. We had the experienced heads and a strong bench to be able to do this. This is where we are lacking.

The other annoying thing is that the mental resolve and ability to turn a game was something that Jimmy Lowes as a player was bloody good at. We have the technical ability there is just a blatant issue with the mindset of our players at the moment. I always thought it would be hard to motivate us at the beginning of this season after coming so close last year. Turns out it's too much of a challenge for Jimmy to handle.

Very dirty team Sheffield, knees elbows spears lifting and more at every opportunity and have been the same for years

Just for the record this won't become a Leigh vs Sheffield thread.

And quite right, too.

Please accept my apologies just casting for light nibble