Jamie Foster having 50% more tackle busts says more about him than i ever could.

Good luck to the guy but as others have said he should do more for his size, one of the players i feel has been coasting.

Cheers for the replies.

From what you've said its obvious he's got the talent in him, that's massive for Widnes. Betts gets the best out of players, look at Phil Joseph. Betts really does get the best out of players, I'd doubt many teams would want many of our first 17, but we're in the play offs and challenge cup semi, which is down to getting the best out of players.

Cheers again, and good luck for next season. Will miss visiting Odsal!

Just having a quick scan through I think there are two props in the entire top 50 for that stat. Daryl Clarke's at the top, and then bar an occasional hooker or second row, all outside the top 20, it's pretty much backs all the way down. Maybe three props at the most in the entire list.

I'm surprised too.

Do I infer from your message that Betts gets the best out of players?

Funnily enough, my impression of Nas is that he's a half decent prop but isn't a leader.

When he's had a prop alongside him who was willing to take a lead by putting in the hard carries and hits, eg Kaufusi, Mullally and Fakir, then Nas would be inspired to get more involved too, but otherwise he'll just trundle the ball about without really bothering.

Agree with this - I saw another side of Nas this year when he managed to play with Kaufusi. When Kaufusi upped the tempo, Nas raised his game also. Problem is when Kaufusi went back to the Giants, Nas went back into his shell.