It might be just me but I have a nagging feeling that things are going to get worse before they get better! Hope I'm wrong but I have a feeling we've not hit bottom!

I see we couldn't even be bothered to start an in game thread today!

That's a little presumptuous isn't it?.

I've got a slant on P&R. Given that we do not have a sugar daddy in the wings as he/she would have come forward before what do people think about promotion. Everyone is talking about the best chance of any championship club have of getting promoted is to finish in the mid 8 in 4th/5th and the winning the one off play-off. What that means realistically is that they would be slightly better than the worst of the SL teams. Moving on a few months you could only see a season of perpetual struggle and back into the play-offs. What I would like to know is: would people prefer to get to the position of 4th/5th and then lose which would probably give you another season of relative success the following year or would you prefer to win and follow it up with a season of struggle.

Yes but you get maybe another £1.5m in Sky money and sponsorship plus a probable bounce on the gates so I would take the promotion risk. You never know Mr Loyalty Carvell might ask to play for us again?

Watching that game tonight,how on earth have we not got in the top 8

Yes I know the reasons why

Best description of tonight's game was us playing us

That was a terrible game

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