I agree. Although Union has improved over the last few years (due to them introducing some rugby league rules), it's still a boring game. The scrums are pathetic...it can take 5 minutes or so before the ref is satisfied that it's OK to put the ball in. On saying this, they've got something right in that their international games are well attended, well publicised and have a great atmosphere. I fear that we'll never match them in that respect unless the RFL has a complete change of strategy.

I have watched yawnion on & off for 40 years. I have NEVER seen an England side run with the ball (unless it is against plucky Moldovia & they are 100 points up (all from kicks) with 5 minutes left).

I bet you typed that with pursed lips and a sense of outrage!



Let me see if we can point you in the right direction.

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Congrats BTW, on looking up the 40/20 rule! Now if you understand the benefits it brings to a RL team, then I reckon, sooner our later the penny will drop regarding a similar tactical kick in Union......



Anymore of this "good works malarky" and I'm going to register as a charity!

I am not saying it had no value but just questioned its place in a highlight reel and if it featured in such, its not very eventful match is it? The kick in question was a penalty kick to touch too (perhaps that detail was lacking)

There was no outrage but I did think what a t1t as you're line of questioning was just to disrupt and cause upset.

the 40/20 is a great rule it rewards a great kick....Lee briers is one of the finest at it he did one at Wembley against you men. It was probably just his fourth or fifth ALL season...

No matter how good an advantage it is, or how good your kicker is we (RL) still play the running game.

And I’m no expert on union and I may be wrong so correct me if I am (I played it 4 times!). You can kick the ball from anywhere on the field and still make a gain as long as it bounces into touch ? Admittedly the other side throw the lineout ball but if your team is particularly strong at line outs you’d kick all day surely? Even if it goes out on the full the line out is from where you kicked the ball…!

On the face of it a greater advantage is to be gained from kicking in Rugby League (as long as its 40/20) because you get the ball at the scrum and almost guaranteed possession back, Kicking in union sometimes gets you up field but the opposition will always have possession of the ball at the throw in .

wonder why Rugby League is sill the running game then and Union is all Kick and clap...

You've beaten me, only managed 3 games of Yawnion, bored me to tears