That`s true enough but the head coach isn`t the one who does most day by day coaching; he has other coaches for that. It`s not really that strange that players might have strong bond with these coaches since they are the people they probably have most contact with.

What happens on the terraces is nothing to do with what happens on the pitch. Your crowd on Friday would have been a good crowd at Belle Vue, Hudds, and probably a record at Quins. I remember the days of 20,000 in there for the Leeds derby.

Not sure Fridays help, and your poor performances don't either, but your downfall is more to do with the old cycle of good teams having their decade and other teams then catching up. Bradford bullied their way around the league, and then other teams learned how to deal with it. Leeds and Saints are enjoying the fruits of a good youth structure. That has a long-term effect for other clubs, because the quality youth want to stay with the club that wins things, and so they keep the best players, and success becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ten years ago, Leeds were the permanent nearly-rans. Now they are the top side. They will slide when the Sinfield's and the Burrows move on, and then someone else will take their place.

Go back fifteen years, and who would have predicted the Wigan trophy cabinet getting so dusty. Your time will come again. There's even a chance that Wakey's might again, although if you were there the last time we had it, you'll probably need wheeling into Old Trafford.

just a case of how patient our fans are and how this period will affect the clubs financial position that is my major worry

Although you don't seem to have the salary bill you used to have. Bit of stability, bring the kids through, and then onwards and upwards. Maybe its time for the Bulls to take a step back, accept that immediate glory will elude them, and take a ten-year look at things, and build a long-term future. That is what Leeds did, and the quality of the kids that have come through there is phenomenal.

It was 2005 that we last seriously challenged for things so we are almost half way through a 10 year look.