That's the problem with the whino fans,a lot of them are Leeds Utd fans as well and that says it all for me.

Indeed, but still, how many times that Bailey or Graham has been reviewed by the MRP is still a stat. They cannot claim that Bailey is a dirty player if Graham has been reviewed by them more, can they? Or is it the less serious incidents that just get a penalty make him a dirty player



I agree with what your saying abou the medals, and like i said on page what ever of this thread, Bails is an in form prop who has a good 5 or 6 years ahead of him and probably 3 or 4 until he peaks.



I'd rather die.

Says all of what?

It seems you have missed the point completely, tell me where I have argued Baileys ability as a RL player?

Have you read the thread "What does Bailey offer", obviously not or you would not have brought that up.

It's the obsession that opposition fans have with Bailey, if he's such a poor player why are you so bothered about him? why does he have his own chapter at every fans forum held on your side of the hills?

He had a good game on Saturday and got the Leeds MOM, the worst tackle of the game was Moores head high shot on Smith but yet we still have threads about Bailey.

And thanks to all the Saints fans for "confirming the fact" re Baileys ability but I think I will decide for myself if thats ok.

You shouldn't agree with him on that, because it is a scrapping the bottom of the barrell argument that is only raised by Saints fans.

Bibey was lucky to play for two sides who at the time he played for them were lucky enough to get into a knockout final. Bibey only spent 2 years at any club before been shipped out for been e.

Bailey has 4 GF winners rings over 6 year period with the one club, in which he has held down a place in that side despite that side been totally dominant in the game.

Anyone who thinks there is any similarlity between that and Bibey's career is seriously deluded.

Will you stop trying to use their own thought process and reasoning against them, it's a Leeds Rhinos thing only.

Bibey was as you say and has 2 CC Winners Medals.

Bailey is very average and has a few SL rings, well, i guess he has, i dont know what was stolen.

Case in point.

I get a feeling you are wasting your breath Gotcha, "Bibey and the fans forums" are the holy grail of proving Bailey's shatness to some fans.

It's the only thing they can use to belittle Baileys career, how on earth the two can be compared is beyond me.

Oh pretty please tell me why the cult hero is such a good rugby player then...

He didn't say that!

Pretty please tell us how you drew a comparison between Bibey & Bailey?

They both are very average props, Bibey especially, who have generally been lucky to be part of a team that they were/are in, again Bibey especially.

However, Bailey tends to get shouted about by rival fans for his ability at throwing his toys out of the pram and acting like 'Billy big boll*cks', and is held in high regards by Leeds fans, somewhat as a cult hero it seems. Probably by letting his Billy big boll*cks attitude make up for his lack of rugby league ability.

Disclaimer - [iIn relation to the above players, quantity of winners medals does not reflect the overall quality of the player.[/i

It may not sound like fear to you, but which of those guests has actually matched their brave words with deeds on the pitch, i.e. by going toe to toe with Bailey?

They tried to, but 2 Leeds players got there first...

Can I just say that everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats fine by me but Bailey has been in the Leeds first team for 9 seasons playing in 5 GF's, 4 WCC's, 1 CC final + 4 GB caps (despite what you think), Powell, Smith, McLennan & Noble all decided he was fit for purpose and are not short on success between them.

Bibey....How many clubs in how many years?, how many games did he play for Wigan & Saints?, lucky to be in the right place at the right time I would say.

Bailey is not average he is a good SL prop, if you find any Leeds fan calling him world class (which I have not) then they are trolling.

The only cult following Bailey has is from opposition fans who are obsessed with him.

When does he throw his toys out of the pram? and what is a "Billy big boll*cks"

Last Saturday would be a good example when he got in a bit of a paddy when he got the penalty awarded against him and decided to throw a water bottle as hard as he could towards the side line, despite there being a water carrier 2 metres away from him.

Billy big boll*cks, giving it the "im ard bruv init", crap all the time and dishing out cheap shots on smaller players.

Even if true, they've at best made a single, half-hearted effort between them. I can think of many hard players over the years who wouldn't have bad-mouthed him from the safety of a home supporters forum but would have just gone and whacked him on the field.

Throwing a water bottle to the side line....Hardly in the same bracket as the entire Saints squad refusing to see Leeds collect the SL trophy after a very hard fought GF.


Who does he actually say "I'm hard" to? & when?, Bailey could learn a thing or two about cheap shots from the likes of Hooper, Nickle, Sculthorpe but I'm sure you regard those in a different manner.

They were all different class to Bailey, yes, so i hold those players in a higher regard in comparison.

I dont like sh*thouse tactics, even if it is one of our own, so it's not a matter of saying Bailey does this but if a Saints player does, then he's a paragon of virtue.

Which GF was this? Oh wait, they hurried along into the changing rooms on the past three occasions. Serious lack of respect!

Carnt believe that you have posted 8 pages on the Saints site about an average Leeds prop FFS,

You will never be able to go "toe to toe" with Bailey because he will be hiding behind 12 other players.

Did he not try his hand at boxing at a Halifax gym about 8 years back but couldn't make a go of it because he kept getting flattened.

Is this thread trying to beat the 10 page "What does Bailey Offer" thread on the Leeds Forum. Perhaps we should ask other club forums to do the same.................then we can have a referendum. Or maybe some one set up a democratic Vote to conclude the matter.

The panel consisted of, if memory serves, Host Terry O'Conner, Mike Bennett, James Roby, Brian Carney and last minute replacement, former ref Karl Kirkpatrick. The fight question, whilst answered wholeheartedly by all panel members, obviously had a crowd-pleasing element especially as Kirky was also asked and gave the same response.

easy there jim davidson!

Terry O'Conner = massive Leeds hater, Slags the club off at every chance!

Mike Bennett = soft cock! all I remember of him is ian kirke knocking him out in the 07 gf

James Roby = thick as 2 short blanks and another soft cock! has a regular chance to put his money where his mouth is and does nowt? soft cock!

Brian "the" Carney = Injury prone, also had plenty of chances to take bails on! Did he? No! soft cock

Karl Kirkpatrick = proper bell end and chief soft cock!

what a panel of cowards! appart from our tez who is just as dumb as a post

Quick question .
If there are so many people at these fans forums that would/want to fight TMFMISL ... Then can we have some names of who they are please ?

As it happens at 'every forum' then I don't think a list of ..oohhh.. let's say .. 20.. Would be an unreasonasble ask would it ?

And proof to back the claims that anyone named in the list actually said what they are alleged to have said would help .
I don't want exact quotes , just a rough idea and enough evidence so that you can type FAHCT after each name .

TIA