I never said you have been or haven't. Success is a matter of opinion, some would consider a team more successful if they won the title rather than the cup? or a hub cap rather than a World title?

This has gone very O/T.

When will we find out about the ticket situation?

Manly are world champions

I will end this now as this has gone very OT



You are a very clever boy and should be given an award of somesort maybe a rattle or something like that.

Have a nice day

Finishing top of Super League is a much greater achievement than being world club chapions imo.

It shows you been the best team in Super League over 27 rounds of a season, which is a great feat. Especially 4 seasons on the trot.

Saints are the most succesfull team in recent years, including the last 5.

TROPHIES IN LAST 3 SEASONS
TOTAL – SAINTS 8, LEEDS 3, WIGAN 0, BRADFORD 0

LAST 10 YEARS
TOTAL – SAINTS 17, LEEDS 7, WIGAN 3, BRADFORD 9

SINCE 1996
TOTAL – SAINTS 20, LEEDS 7, WIGAN 4, BRADFORD 10

I think that settles that!

Any news on the ticket situation, i thought free tickets were only for home ties?

Anyway regarding the draw lets just hope the pitches start to dry out and some British sunshine greets us over the next few weeks. As proved last season on three occassions Saints v Leeds on a dry track equates to a convincing win for the S men.

It would mean more with a balanced fixture schedule straight home and away so there are flaws to your argument!!
Don't forget to compete in WCC you have to win the BIGGEST fixture of the season at old trafford so again there's flaws in your argument.
I'm more than happy with our success as it stands and there's plenty more finals to come imo.

We appear to be the most sucesssful team in Super League. It's a shame other people can't face that.

I'm not knocking your teams success, but it has been a belief of mine that to top the league at the end of the weekly rounds is slightly more credit worthy than playing in a knockout comp at the end of the season to produce an overall winner. An arguemnt used by some to devalue the Challenge Cup I know, but that is a tradition that should never be sneered at, as it allows lower league and non-league teams the chance of a giant killing performance which could be the crowning glory for a lot of players for the rest of their lives

I agree re-the cup but the league is still inbalanced with the extra fixture's so it will always add weight to the finishing top argument!!
The comp we have is great but it has many flaws imo even more now with the top 8 and pick yer opponent garbage but it's also the BIG 1 at OT which is considered the most worthy trophy out of all on offer followed by the cup.

Rugby league should have something similar to the charity shield to kick off the season. Challenge cup winners vs Superleague champions. It would gain much needed publicity to launch superleague every year.
what do you think

That would be good a stand alone showpiece to launch the season

We used to do it, but it got scrapped due to lack of interest, poor sponsorship and it being another extra game.

We enjoyed the Isle of Man trips though.

You would enjoy trips anywhere as long as their is liquid refreshment about.

You know me too well.

A very sociable young man I once was.

Now a gog.

Quite pleased your playing 4:30 on the Sunday Afternoon. Four days before our Easter clash.

Reserve team for your game.First team for our home clash against Hull.

We might have done that in the days when we were a ruthless winning machine. We've got so fat recently that the club won't try anything.

8? Where do you get that from? The league leaders shield is not a trophy.

No more suspect than you usually getting byes to the quarters.....finally youve got a proper tie early on!!! think someone mixed us and you up!! barrow away would be rite up your street usually

Pleased with the draw in all honesty.

It gives us a chance to see where we are in contrast with Leeds. If we win then we should be making it back to Wembley, if not then we can concentrate on winning at OT and all state how bored we are with going to Wembley anyway.

Not me, I have never got bored with a visit to Wembley, but am in agreement that some teams just have to be beaten on the way, sooner or later we would have to play Leeds

its a great draw, should be a great match. can't see the winner of it tho winning the cup this year