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| No, like Ainscough who we're linked with, he's balding, borderline ginger and has obviously spent too much time in the Wigan area.
Saints should only sign good looking players.
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| How very dare you! Borderline ginger indeed. Didn't stop you loaning us young Hardman.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"How very dare you! Borderline ginger indeed. Didn't stop you loaning us young Hardman.'"
There's a reason young padawan.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Dobbo cant tackle very well, and his kickign ratio is shocking,he hardly scores a try and he is an aussie, never happen.'"
Correct so you best leave him at Rovers
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| Quote ="Big Spender"He's rubbish
His field kicking is rubbish, his place kicking leaves a lot to be desired and he hasn't scored a try all season. Never makes any plays for his frustrated team mates and according to dull fans he's on a £1,000,000 per year.
Look elsewhere....looks like we will lumbered with him on a long term contract
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somebody paying too much....
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| Quote ="Big Spender"He's rubbish
His field kicking is rubbish, his place kicking leaves a lot to be desired and he hasn't scored a try all season. Never makes any plays for his frustrated team mates and according to dull fans he's on a £1,000,000 per year.
Look elsewhere....looks like we will lumbered with him on a long term contract
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Don't forget, he is $hit at 40-20 kicks.
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| It was in todays paper that we're chasing Dobson.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"It was in todays paper that we're chasing Dobson.'"
Oh well, I suppose you can dream
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"It was in todays paper that we're chasing Dobson.'"
What paper is that?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Oh well, I suppose you can dream'"
Dream ? What the hell are you talking about ?
Not one person in this thread have said they would take Dobson! And neither would i! His a decent player but we have a YOUTH policy at Saints with some very good half backs itching for a regular spot.
You can stick your no Mark NRL Aussie up your back passage pal.
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| Quote ="St pete"What paper is that?'"
Daily Star.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Dream ? What the hell are you talking about ?
Not one person in this thread have said they would take Dobson! And neither would i! His a decent player but we have a YOUTH policy at Saints with some very good half backs itching for a regular spot.
You can stick your no Mark NRL Aussie up your back passage pal.'"
You should play them then, how long was Soliola in your youth team for?
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Daily Star.'"
It also mentions myler.
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| Dobson is better then any 7 currently at St Helens(including Long) imo and would be a great signing for you.
He's probably the best 7 in superleague at the moment so why you wouldn't want him is a mystery to me
I'd be totally gutted if you got him.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"You should play them then, how long was Soliola in your youth team for?'"
1. We bed our youngsters in the team, with the view that when our senior players retire. We replace them with good talent.
Long out = Eastmond or Wheeler in.
KC out - Scott Moore in
Tom Armstrong
Jonny Lomax
Chris Dean
Kyle Eastmond
Gary Wheeler
Matty Ashurst
Jake Emmit
Chris Frodsham
Andrew Dixon
Each one of these youngsters have played this year for Saints. Thats 9 St Helens juniors. Imagine if every other team replaced there Lovergroves and Stanley Genes with good young British talent. GB might win something.
2. Soliola is a international centre at the age of 22. What a great signing for not only Saints but Super League.
3. You have just confirmed you no jack sh*t about RL.
Jeez what is with these Hull KR fans ? There was a time i rooted for them to get into SL and believed there bitter rivals FC where the overated and most chaviest team in SL history. Big apology to all FC fans !!
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| I think dobson is good player but not sure I'd like him at saints. He played really well for wigan when he was there.
I don't buy into all this don't sign players because we got a youth policy.
The is nothing more I'd love than to see wheeler and eastmond are half backs and Moore at hooker and so on but teams still need to sign players because no team can produce a full team from there youth team.
When top class players are up for grabs like thurston we should be in for them.
Sir mac should do what's best for the team.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"1. We bed our youngsters in the team, with the view that when our senior players retire. We replace them with good talent.
Long out = Eastmond or Wheeler in.
KC out - Scott Moore in
Tom Armstrong
Jonny Lomax
Chris Dean
Kyle Eastmond
Gary Wheeler
Matty Ashurst
Jake Emmit
Chris Frodsham
Andrew Dixon
Each one of these youngsters have played this year for Saints. Thats 9 St Helens juniors. Imagine if every other team replaced there Lovergroves and Stanley Genes with good young British talent. GB might win something.
2. Soliola is a international centre at the age of 22. What a great signing for not only Saints but Super League.
3. You have just confirmed you no jack sh*t about RL.
Jeez what is with these Hull KR fans ? There was a time i rooted for them to get into SL and believed there bitter rivals FC where the overated and most chaviest team in SL history. Big apology to all FC fans !!'"
We'll get there mate don't worry. We've bedded into the super league and now not only is the first team performing so are both the reserve grades.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think dobson is good player but not sure I'd like him at saints. He played really well for wigan when he was there.
I don't buy into all this don't sign players because we got a youth policy.
The is nothing more I'd love than to see wheeler and eastmond are half backs and Moore at hooker and so on but teams still need to sign players because no team can produce a full team from there youth team.
When top class players are up for grabs like thurston we should be in for them.
Sir mac should do what's best for the team.'"
I agree.
The FACT is St Helens have a great bunch of half back talent. Thats why we dont need to sign anyone.
We DONT have any great young centres in our youth team. Thats why we have signed a world class overseas import.
FFS it's not rocket science. Is Kyle Eastmond or Wheeler good enough to start every game ? We dont know! Have they got the talent to do so ? They certainly have!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"We'll get there mate don't worry. We've bedded into the super league and now not only is the first team performing so are both the reserve grades.'"
I hope you do.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think dobson is good player but not sure I'd like him at saints. He played really well for wigan when he was there.
I don't buy into all this don't sign players because we got a youth policy.
The is nothing more I'd love than to see wheeler and eastmond are half backs and Moore at hooker and so on but teams still need to sign players because no team can produce a full team from there youth team.
When top class players are up for grabs like thurston we should be in for them.
Sir mac should do what's best for the team.'"
I'd also like to add that signing Thurston is a fantasy. He'll only arrive at 31 plus. With a great big wage packet in his back pocket. Saints do not go for them kind of players. We leave that to Wigan and Warrington.
And looking at recent achievements, i'd say we're doing a fine job.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"I agree.
The FACT is St Helens have a great bunch of half back talent. Thats why we dont need to sign anyone.
We DONT have any great young centres in our youth team. Thats why we have signed a world class overseas import.
FFS it's not rocket science. Is Kyle Eastmond or Wheeler good enough to start every game ? We dont know! Have they got the talent to do so ? They certainly have!'"
I agree. Think we are saying same thing.
What worries me though is if long goes and eastmond and wheeler just ain't good enough.
We know wheeler can more than hold his own in the centre but can he direct the team round the park?
Eastmond looks like he could be a top top player and I love seeing him with ball in hand but we don't know if he can handle being our 7 every week.
IMO long will do 1 more year which then gives us chance to bed eastmond in.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Who says he is rubbish ?
Sydney is a joker and a funny one at that. Dobson is a good player, however we have good talent at Saints who need a chance. Can you imagine Wigan getting rid of Tomkins for Dobson ?'"
my apologies then, as for sticking to youth, id rethink that approach. fc have had the best academy the last 3 years and look whats happened to us, then again a rubbish coach and halfback dont help! who else has been mentioned as a potential st`s target?? stay away from orford or else!!
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| Quote ="St pete"I agree. Think we are saying same thing.
What worries me though is if long goes and eastmond and wheeler just ain't good enough.
We know wheeler can more than hold his own in the centre but can he direct the team round the park?
Eastmond looks like he could be a top top player and I love seeing him with ball in hand but we don't know if he can handle being our 7 every week.
IMO long will do 1 more year which then gives us chance to bed eastmond in.'"
It's a risk that you take. We could sign Jonathen Thurston on a huge wage packet and he might fail miserably! Just like Monaghan at Warrington.
Whats the bigger risk. Let Eastmond and Wheeler have a go who are probably on pea nuts or splash out on wages and watch them fail.
Tim Smith
Michael Monaghan
Matt King
Brett Mullins
Etc.......
Every signing is a risk, especially at half back.
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