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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I heard a whisper he was going to be playing his rugby in France next year.'"
Who for?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"If Long is to play for another 2 years, and continue to win us big matches, then he will have to target the games to perform in, whilst allowing the likes of Eastmond to progress to eventually replace him. Eastmond is probably highly unlikely to win a Lance Todd Trophy just yet, Long is always a safe bet to bring home the trophies.'"
That's too long a time frame for that, at some point we're going to have to find out if Eastmond is good enough, not giving him the opportunity to build a partnership with Pryce by dropping him every other week and for big games is not going to work.
It's time to say goodbye and wish Long all the best at the end of this year I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I heard a whisper he was going to be playing his rugby in France next year.'"
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| Long may want a 2 year contract but whether he gets it or not is another thing.
KC is going at the end of the year. Moore is a Saint next year.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Who for?'"
I was quite drunk, so the details are sketchy at best, but i definitely recall this and as its so random i took notice.
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| Absolutely no way should he be given a new contract, let alone one for two years.
I'd rather struggle for a year or two with Eastmond/Wheeler/Smith and decide who plays than risk losing all of them just to keep Longy on.
The fact is he doesn't deserve a new contract.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Absolutely no way should he be given a new contract, let alone one for two years.
I'd rather struggle for a year or two with Eastmond/Wheeler/Smith and decide who plays than risk losing all of them just to keep Longy on.
The fact is he doesn't deserve a new contract.'"
I'd have to agree with this, his time has been, its all well and good playing well for two big games a year, but what about the other 30 or so
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| Give him a Ten year contract the man is a Saints Legend some of you have very short memories indeed.
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| Quote ="St_Maca"Give him a Ten year contract the man is a Saints Legend some of you have very short memories indeed.'"
No room for sentimentality.
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| Quote ="Ski"No room for sentimentality.'"
Make it 9 years then.
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| TBH, I wouldnt even give him a one year contract based on his performances so far. Imagine the cap space we will have with him off the wage bill. As Ski said, no room for sentiment. Hes been a fantastic player, but his performances this season arent warranting him being offered a new contract imo.
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| I think you should give Long and Cunningham new 5 year deals.
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| Not sure the team be the same withotu Longy in it, or around it. The wage will decrease and we retain the legend that is Sean Long, unless he fancies a stint at Fev Rovers along side his buddy Iestyn
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| I'd love to see him got to Celtic for a couple of seasons. Get a nice pay check, and help them grow. But there is now no rooms for him at Saints, we need to start moving on.
If he did go have an Indian Summer in Wales, it would be great when he came back to play us we would sing (well we wouldn't because we don't sing anymore) his name once again to remind him how much we love him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think you should give Long and Cunningham new 5 year deals.'"
I think you need a hobby.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think you should give Long and Cunningham new 5 year deals.'"
Our new 22yr old signing ruining your "dads army" claims??
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| Doesn't only half of Longs salary count towards the salary cap?
If that's the case, then would we be able to find a player of that quality, for that amount of money?
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| Quote ="jonnythesaint"Doesn't only half of Longs salary count towards the salary cap?
If that's the case, then would we be able to find a player of that quality, for that amount of money?'"
How? you are allowed an extra £50k for a player who has had over 10yrs service, but we could use that on wello just as easily
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Absolutely no way should he be given a new contract, let alone one for two years.
I'd rather struggle for a year or two with Eastmond/Wheeler/Smith and decide who plays than risk losing all of them just to keep Longy on.
The fact is he doesn't deserve a new contract.'"
Spot on Longy this year has done nothing to warrant a new contract let alone one for 2yrs
He needs to look at his kicking for a start woefull
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| Long and KC are both Saints legends, however there comes a time with all players when its time to hang up the boots, or take a step down in intensity.
Chris Joynt was a legend at Saints but knew when to quit and didnt spoil his copy book.
I would hate for Long and KC to fall for the boxers trick of playing on and end up diminishing their immense reputations.
Both can still do it and raise themselves for the big games, but the week in week out intensity does take its tole, and has shown on a number of times this year, when the players have put in performances that are out of character.
At this stage i certainly think Saints cannot afford to offer Long a 2 year contract. At most i would offer him a one year deal, but realistically even that is pushing it.
Its a similar scenario to Willie Talau. Willie could still do the business but sometimes you have to plan for the future and take hard decisions. Remember as a result of Willie going, we have managed to give Chris Dean and Gary Wheeler the opportunity to show their wares.
Wheeler in particular looks a star in the making, and although not yet as capable as Willie, offers the potential in a year or two to be a better player.
KC for me should go out at the top as a legend. Therefore finish at the end of this year.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"How? you are allowed an extra £50k for a player who has had over 10yrs service, but we could use that on wello just as easily'"
But it's only for one player per team.
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| Sean is heading down the Scully route at the moment, playing on despite the best years being behind him and struggling for form with injuries.
2 years is too long and should be halved or be let go by the club, as Ski said the sentiment has to finish soon. We are second to Leeds who have younger players in the same positions. If we want to gain the SL back then we have to start phasing out KC and Long.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But it's only for one player per team.'"
thats my point, the allowance doesn't help us retain long if we can use it on another player, as we would use it if he stayed or not.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"
Chris Joynt was a legend at Saints but knew when to quit and didnt spoil his copy book.
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Joynty would of happily stayed on another year cockle.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"we're going to have to find out if Eastmond is good enough, not giving him the opportunity to build a partnership with Pryce by dropping him every other week and for big games is not going to work.'"
I get the feeling either Potter or the club have already done that in some way. Personally I'm really surprised at the lack of game time he's had so far this season for Saints. I would have thought that Long and Eastmonds roles would be largely reversed this season with Long playing more cameo roles with Eastmond starting more.
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