I think you need to ignore him, he always comes across with a distorted viewpoint and is a real oddball.

Meh.

FWIW it is funny reading this thread, whilst i agree Bentham failed to spot or act on several major issues, you'd think we were angels. Fair enough we might not be as dirty as Leeds but we do our fair share of misdemeanors.

That said, my tuppence worth:

On the Senior booking, i'm still trying to understand how he can get sin-binned for striking when Lee Smith essentially did the same thing two minutes earlier to no response. Does punching not count if you don't hit quite as hard?

Difference being Gilmour reacted pretty violently; as he always does. No doubt they'll both be looked at and fined...

Wilkin went missing on the other hand...

I normally ignore all of the obviously deranged ones, but mix a bottle of Merlot and a numbskull like that, well....

Yes, because the ability to praise another team's player really DOES show how biased towards Wigan I am(!)

To be quite honest, a post such as yours says far more about you than it does me. Most obvious is the fact that you are yet one more person who can't actually debate or discuss anything rationally OR intelligently, and therefore feels the need to hide behind some (frankly crap) insults.

Please tell me you're either sterile or gay, because the gene pool's polluted enough.

it was a bad one but that's a bit harsh....

Yeah, it's meant to be.

Unrealistic, but putting things in perspective. Man takes recreational drug, 2 year ban. Man tries to deliberately injure a fellow professional... surely should be more severe?

Also, how ridiculously lenient are the RFL on Super League teams? 1 match ban offences in Super League would attract 3 or 4 match bans in lower leagues.

Do people think the game was any more fannyish(sp) before VR. NO. The game was harder. It`s only new speccies ie the last 10/12 years that think so. If they don`t want to watch a mans game then go and watch ice hockey or onion or chess. If ya can`t stand the heat get out the kitchen.

They'd have to ban Pryce and Cunningham then and can't see that happening.

Lulu's left hook on Graham in the dying minutes?

Yes, it's a man's game, but rules are rules and players should have respect enough not to try and deliberately rob another of his career through injury.

It is possible to play hard but fairly.

I have zero respect for players that bear such contempt for the rules and their fellow players that they would actually try to dislocate their shoulder deliberately. Sine die bans would soon stamp it out.

Do you know exactly when that is? I'll have a look at that now.

IMO that high swinging arm was worst out the lot. That's why jammer stormed off pitch at the end.

IMO Leeds did play rough tonight or even dirty at times but why can't saints give it back?

I don't mean saints should throw punches and do high shots but when Leeds got the ball we should have really got in to them so they know they can't bully us.

Our pack is way to soft. Tony p, flannery, wilkin and bryn ain't got any fire in them so Leeds know they can bully us.

Not sure exactly but in the last couple of minutes

I'd say last 5 mins.

Because the retaliators always get punished harder than the aggressors. It's better not to give it back if possible. It's tough not to, but better not to.

There'll be no bans. Maybe some warning letters, but no bans. It's Leeds. There are never bans for Leeds players.

I think Saints are fairly well disciplined from the Anderson era, we don,t really have any enforcers only Maurie who is more of an impact player. Leeds could consider themselves lucky with what they got away with, if it were Ganson I think we would have seen a few more yellow cards and probably a red.
Who was the Leeds player that did the forearm scrape right across Longy,s bad eye, for me that was intent to cause permanent damage.

Pryce and Cunningham....? Same goes for Saints.

I'm not saying we should fight or throw high shots. I'm saying we should have bounced them when the got the ball.

We should have really give it to them but in a fair way.

IMO we ain't got the pack to smash Leeds about.

Fas got a one match ban for a chicken wing (or was it a grapple?) very early on in the season. So we do get bans. But Leeds won't, even though that chicken wing on Graham was awful. And while Graham may have made himself look daft by walking off last night (even though I appreciate why he did it), he doesn't scrunch his face up in agony unless he's in agony. Likewise with the grapple on Eastmond later in the game. Both are illegal tackles, both should be punished with bans as they were very clear cases of those illegal tackles.

Webb's grapple
JJB's chicken wing
Senior's punch (and going back for a second bite)
Cunningham's swinging arm
Lee Smith's swinging arm
Leuluai swinging arm
All of the above derserve bans, but won't because it's the top 2 versus each other so they were just being 'passionate'!

The chicken wing tackle on graham IMO was pretty bad and worthy of 2 match ban.

The Webb on eastmond wasn't as bad and I don't feel he should be banned, prob a warning.

Senior should get a ban for punching wilkin and so should lulu for his swinging arm on jammer

Clearly paid no attention as this is my first comment on the thread.

Leeds discipline has gone downhill since this coach arrived, its not good to watch really.

It's a general rule of thumb. Wherever you may post, the smell of crap is never far away.