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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"You keep harping on about this, seemingly forgetting that Eastmond signed his deal 12 months prior to the decisions on who to let go.'"
stop ruining her fun by using facts!
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"You keep harping on about this, seemingly forgetting that Eastmond signed his deal 12 months prior to the decisions on who to let go.'"
Maybe she means saints was planning ahead for his next contract?
IMO bryn has been no big loss even with the injuries we've got. If we had full team fit I doubt he'd even get a look in. Perry, LMS, TP, Graham and clough would be ahead of him in the front row and Sia, wilkin, flannery and clough ahead of him in the back row.
I just wished we somehow could have kept Jake emmitt. He was starting to look the part last year and if he progressed as he was could maybe replaced jammer when he goes the NRL.
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| Quote ="St pete"Maybe she means saints was planning ahead for his next contract?'"
Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. I do believe the Chairman also referred to the matter of financing Kyle Eastmond's (never to be) new contract as well.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. I do believe the Chairman also referred to the matter of financing Kyle Eastmond's (never to be) new contract as well.'"
Only looking after my special girl
When you think about it, it's a tough job trying to tie players down on new deals and bringing new players to the club. They have to plan 3/4 years in advance.
I think that's what maybe happened when the likes of bryn and emmitt left. I'd say they prob wanted 3/4 year deals but with eastmond, Pryce, jammer, flannery and ade coming off contract at the same time we just couldn't risk it.
Also, I think sir mac wanted to free some cap space for the 2012 season as we are moving to our new stadium and he'll want as he's says " a team to grace our new stadium"
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| Quote ="St pete"
IMO bryn has been no big loss even with the injuries we've got. If we had full team fit I doubt he'd even get a look in. Perry, LMS, TP, Graham and clough would be ahead of him in the front row and Sia, wilkin, flannery and clough ahead of him in the back row.
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But if you remove Graham and Puletua for 2012, I'd say Hargreaves would be pretty handy as your 4th choice prop. And he'll still be around for a bit when Perry retires.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"But if you remove Graham and Puletua for 2012, I'd say Hargreaves would be pretty handy as your 4th choice prop. And he'll still be around for a bit when Perry retires.'"
Don't get me wrong and I'm not for one min slagging bryn off but he's just your average run of the mill hard working forward.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"But if you remove Graham and Puletua for 2012, I'd say Hargreaves would be pretty handy as your 4th choice prop. '" If we were be foolish to not sign any replacements.....
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| Puletua from you guy's and Shillington from the NRL both to Wire, or so say's League Weekly.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"But if you remove Graham and Puletua for 2012, I'd say Hargreaves would be pretty handy as your 4th choice prop. And he'll still be around for a bit when Perry retires.'"
Hargreaves was effectively replaced by LMS, who is a much better player.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Puletua from you guy's and Shillington from the NRL both to Wire, or so say's League Weekly.'"
So it quotes 100% that TP has signed?
If that's true then he's being telling his team mates and the club lies. I know a current saints player pretty well. He's told me the only thing stopping him from signing a very good 2yr deal with saints Is family reasons back in oz.
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| Quote ="St pete"So it quotes 100% that TP has signed?
If that's true then he's being telling his team mates and the club lies. I know a current saints player pretty well. He's told me the only thing stopping him from signing a very good 2yr deal with saints Is family reasons back in oz.'"
It doesn't say he's definitely signed. Just that Wire are trying their up most best to secure his signature for next year.
I think their obviously looking to replace Carvell, who's reported to be leaving.
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| Puletua has been offered an extremely attractive 2 year deal by St Helens, the only thing stopping him signing it are off field problems on Oz. If he sorts the problems he will sign for Saints, if he doesn't he will go back to the NRL.
Wire have offered him a deal, but are certainly not in the equation.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"It doesn't say he's definitely signed. Just that Wire are trying their up most best to secure his signature for next year.'"
As are Saints, so he must be staying with us. We tried our up most best to keep Kyle too, didn't quite work out that way.
I'd be surprised if he went to Wire, but stranger things have happened.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"It doesn't say he's definitely signed. Just that Wire are trying their up most best to secure his signature for next year.
I think their obviously looking to replace Carvell, who's reported to be leaving.'"
Isn't fatty solomona going as well?
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| Did anyone see the highlights on sky last night? They go on about conditioning being great at the Wire but they have let Solo balloon up in weight dramatically. He looks like a ball with two legs sticking out of the bottom. If TP ended up like that it would be a shame.
There is just too much talk of him leaving for me. No smoke and all that. It would a horrible situation to be in with our best two forwards leaving at the same time.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Did anyone see the highlights on sky last night? They go on about conditioning being great at the Wire but they have let Solo balloon up in weight dramatically. He looks like a ball with two legs sticking out of the bottom. If TP ended up like that it would be a shame.
There is just too much talk of him leaving for me. No smoke and all that. It would a horrible situation to be in with our best two forwards leaving at the same time.'"
He might be leaving but im pretty sure he won't be at Warrington.
I think the maybe 2/3 good players to sign for saints yet as well.
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| Quote ="St pete" I know a current saints player pretty well. He's told me the only thing stopping him from signing a very good 2yr deal with saints Is family reasons back in oz.'"
what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
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| Quote ="nikos"what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
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you forgot to add in the fact that your also pretty dim.
Family is a big thing for some people and they put them first. If he feels he would better off in Aus/NZ and he can find a club then I wouldnt hold it against him and neither would any normal Saints fan.
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| Quote ="nikos"what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
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I'm going off the fact a current first team player who knows TP told me not what a crap rugby newspaper says that is 99% of time wrong.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm going off the fact a current first team player who knows TP told me not what a crap rugby newspaper says that is 99% of time wrong.'"
Just create a new thread called 'TP confirms he is 100% deffo going home to play Aussie rules' or something equally dumb and unfounded and Nosey Parker will have it up in League Weekly as a known fact next week
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| Quote ="nikos"what a ridiculous comment'"
It's not a ridiculous comment, it's a fact.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Did anyone see the highlights on sky last night? They go on about conditioning being great at the Wire but they have let Solo balloon up in weight dramatically. He looks like a ball with two legs sticking out of the bottom. If TP ended up like that it would be a shame.
There is just too much talk of him leaving for me. No smoke and all that. It would a horrible situation to be in with our best two forwards leaving at the same time.'"
Solomona hardly trains due to injuries ( or maybe laziness!! ) one things for sure though he's still a class act, it's a shame he's in the shape he is because fully fit he'd be one of if not the best second towers in the league. Puletua always impresses me, man mountain of a man and great to watch. Hope he's still in this country tbext season whether that be at saints or wire who knows lol
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| Rower not tower that accolade belongs to pryce at quins/Wigan. Bloody iphones
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| I'll hazard that the loss of Graham may well impact upon Puletua's decision. Looking through his eyes the future at Saints is very uncertain. Two out of the three marquee names gone. Hohaia is coming, but he's 28/29 (Eastmond has seven years on him) and may not be of the same worth (in relation to the competition). The fanbase is currently in decline (as is SL's) and the competition is being attacked on all fronts for talent.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I'll hazard that the loss of Graham may well impact upon Puletua's decision. Looking through his eyes the future at Saints is very uncertain. Two out of the three marquee names gone. Hohaia is coming, but he's 28/29 (Eastmond has seven years on him) and may not be of the same worth (in relation to the competition). The fanbase is currently in decline (as is SL's) and the competition is being attacked on all fronts for talent.'"
Maybe, although I'm not sure Eastmond can be considered a marquee name.
After a largely ineffective season last year due to injury, and the saga of this year, he's not proven himself to be anything other than a youngster with (admittedly great) potential. Lomax has come in and, for me, ticks all the same boxes.
Hohaia will surely carry more clout to TP if he's looking for marquee names to line up alongside him - someone who has been there and done it at the highest level, and young enough to make a huge impact on SL.
Saints fanbase will undoubtedly rise in the new stadium, in fact for season one it will virtually double from where it is now.
His decision will rest on whether he wants to stay in the UK or return Down Under for personal, rather than sporting, reasons IMO.
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