After Fridays game, was there anything in the game to suggest that Saints still wont make the GF? Just wondering.

The four teams below Saints have all beaten than this season, so I would guess so.

Thanks for that Zod. I was asking him personally as he assured me a couple of weeks ago that Saints categorically wouldn't be in the final.

Thanks for your concern though.

Yes, many things.

Things that HullKR are doing better then I presume. Where do Saints need to improve then?

Wigan and Huddersfield are a much better bet than Hiull KR to get to the final.

why cant he take on the Sculthorpe role ? thats simple, he cant, he is no way near the talent Sculthorpe was for 10 years. I think its unfair to compare, he is not in that class.

I like Wilkin, but Saints need some mongrel in them of late. Wilkin should have been firing into that Bald Pr1ck from Leeds. Saints could always play, but they had some real nasty streaks that made them great

Okey dokey

Do you think Wilkin has got under Seniors skin, a few choice words again to our Keith and he will go into a manic, hitting out frenzy.

Are you for real?
Senior can belt the 5hit out of wilkin in the last 2 minutes at OT as well for all we care

I was thinking more in the 1st 2 minutes, get my drift.

Some of the commetns on here about Wilkin needing space and a defence on the back foot to really shine explain exactly why he'll need to develop a lot to make an impact at international level. Mind you, at least he's dangerous in those situations - unlike Sinfield, who's seemingly innocuous whatever the situation.

You could start by buying Wellens and Gardner a Kawasaki each.

What was McGuire using then? ? ? A mini moto? ? ?

A keyboard?

We've won countless titles with these two players so if that's the biggest problem we have, I guess you must be clutching at straws.

They could tour the scouse clubs as St Helens answer to the Krankies.

I'd go and watch that gig.

We've beaten you twice this season, I wouldn't call that clutching at straws exactly.

Yeah, but the first loss was given to you by James Graham not standing square. Hardly your skill!

It'll be sweet to gain revenge in two weeks time.

Sorry mate, no point us turning up according to Zodders.

Off the track a bit but I read a couple of comment sbout Potter's tactics of five drives and a kick. Where have you been since 2005? They were our tactics throughout the Daniel Anderson era.

As for Wilkin, I have felt for many years that we don't utilise the lad in the best way. He's a ball handler, who can kick and create gaps yet we continually bung him in the second row whilst having people like Flannery, Clough and even Gilmour coming into the loose role during the games.

It might be just me but why not give him a more defining role at loose and get the other less creative players playing in the second row and prop where they are probably more suited anyway.

As it happens, Wilkin's work rate is fantastic and he goes through a massive amount of unseen work but we are just not getting the best out of him.

Agreed. Wilkin should play 13 and be given more license. Ando's tactics were a lot more conservative than Millward's but there was still room for flair and creativity. Under Potter we seem to have a very restricted style and we don't seem to take risks anymore.

Obviously a lack of pace stops us being dangerous from anywhere outside the 20 (Bar Gilmour).

Hopefully Eastmond and Lomax can be brought through to solve this little problem.