That's what he does tho. He even commented on finding Lms position and it being 13.

As I said on Friday, we should have took the 2 points to make it a one score to win but then we also took off Lms and sia when we was on top. Those two brought the us up to scratch physically with the wolves and we went flat when we took them off.

Correct. And we brought Howarth on when we were on a roll as well and he just slowed everything down again.

Exactly! Lance was causing them problems and he brought the awful howarth on.

It looks as though we could finish in 7th place now. Warrington will have nothing to play for next week and could rest quite a few players to give Catalan a win. With just +1 in our favour on points difference with Hull, I suppose a draw will do.
As already mentioned will Brown bring Lomax into the halves to cause problems to Hulls fairly reasonable defence.
We are miles away from Huddersfield and Warrington in rugby terms do we need all this torture in the play offs.

I don't think we have a cat in hell's chance of beating Hull. Their defence is superb and our attack is useless. Without a kicker on board we won't be able to get over the line. They have halfbacks, and one who can do a lot of damage (except at Challenge Cup finals) while our defence has been iffy all season.

They've conceded more points than us this season and we have scored exactly the same amount of points.

If their defence is superb then the stats would suggest that so is ours. Their attack must also be equally as useless as ours.

Howarth shouldn't get anywhere near the 17. Never seen a hooker so slow around the ruck or fall off so many tackles. As per Friday, I'd expect Wello to take over at stand off from the bench & Hohaia to hooker when Roby needs a breather.
Wheeler will not play & wont be in initial squad. Im told he's light years from match fitness to even be considered.

I think your lot will win on Friday. We had 11 missing on Friday, and the only player definatley back is Hereamai. Ellis has a chance but has damaged ribs and I don't think he will be risked

Hope so. Likely we'll then play Hull KR who have Burns out (broken arm) & Dobson due for a scan today. Possibly both halves out.

They conceded 33 points to a Wigan side with an average age of 21 on Friday, hardly superb defence!!

Whilst also having 9 players unavailable ourselves. In general our defense has been very good, certainly in the past couple of months.

Take no notice of the village idiot easthullwesty no one else does

If we have a decent start and play like we did in the second half, we should beat hull comfortably IMO.

We came up just short vs the best team in the comp. Lets be positive about our chances this week

If we turn up in the first quarter , or should I say if we start with some props, we should be ok against Hull, but they're not to be underestimated

Hull's attack was good last Friday with Crookes scoring three and Briscoe two.
Houldsworth was their best player IMO and most of their good play came from him. Hull were without a number of players but their back line read - Shaul, Crookes, Whiting, Yeaman, Briscoe, Houldsworth and Miller. All played at Wembley and looked like they were trying to make up for damage done.
Hull weren't great at all but with a much needed win behind them, morale will have gone up so expect a massive improvement come Friday.
The game last Friday was the exact opposite of Wembley, with off the cuff play, fast players all over the park and a very entertaining game.

Yet only conceded 2 in the final against your first choice side despite having no possession or territory

If we dont win this weekend, we may as well not bother with the playoffs.

They should be focusing on this one as the first play off game. Raise the intensity and get the win under our belts. We have been playing well enough recently (first 20mins last week aside) to be confident of winning.

Is that the best team in the competition that we have beaten twice this year

Yeah, that's the one.

Nah, that means that Hull are da bestest team ever if you've beaten them twice.

Clearly

best team in the comp finished top

You'd like to think so, but I don't think finishing top says as much as it should.

~Wasn't the case when we finished top and lost in the GF. Same for Bradford when they finished top and When Warrington finished top.

Don't know why it would change now??

Looks like I was right.