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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo'"
Nah, it was a good kick that. If you can find the ground with backspin that close to the line you're going to cause problems.
Overall, though, his kicking was still pretty rank.
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| I thought lance hohaia performance was a improvement but still poor. His kicking game again was shocking.
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| Lance looked less of a problem last night because he didn't get involved as much. His kick for J-Lo's try was good but other than that I'm struggling to think of things he did that were a positive. His positional kicking is awful.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought it was a poor kick, straight to two leeds defenders, only their fumbles and a lucky bounce got that try, imo'"
I disagree. Judging by the bounce he'd put spin on it and he'd hit the ground at a very awkward distance from the line, causing mass confusion.
I thought Hohaia had an ok game last night but more people came into attack, so taking the spotlight off him. This season seems to be about protecting our senior players from criticism.
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| Lance was okay and nothing more, but that is a definite improvement on what he has been and hopefully the improvement will continue. What encouraged me was he took the line on more last night than he has in the past 6 weeks combined. His kick for Lomax's try was definitely a good kick, he spotted Brent Webb awfully out of position (defending 1 out from the ruck) and just dinked the ball into space with spin. We were fortunate with the roll of the ball after that but it was a good kick. Kicking in general still has a lot to improve on though.
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| Quote ="St pete"I thought lance hohaia performance was a improvement but still poor. His kicking game again was shocking.'"
He was well below what you expect from a 'star signing' . Doesnt offer enough at 6 for me at all
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"He was well below what you expect from a 'star signing' . Doesnt offer enough at 6 for me at all'"
Can you imaging the damage Leon Pryce could've done last night?
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| I thought Shenton and Perry had two of their better performances in a Saints shirt. Clearly the speculation about Shenton had him fired up, he was everywhere defensively and his flick pass for Makinson's try was quality. Perry was much improved and when he looks for work and offloads the ball he can be quite a handful. Unfortunately, he's far too inconsistent and I don't anticipate much of a future unless he replicate yesterday's performance on a more regular basis.
Hohaia and Wheeler were rubbish I thought. Take out the kick for our opening try and Hohaia's contribution was minimal. Some of his kicking was horrendous and I don't think he really knows what he's doing in that position. As for Wheeler, some shocking defensive reads and errors but he is just coming back from injury, so I'll give him a few weeks to bed in yet.
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| Hohaia hides behind the PTB too much.
If he wants to convert to 6 yet I don't see any urgency from him to become a 6.
Bar his defence he seems to be coasting.
Rush has given him plenty of support in the press.
Think Lance needs to decide if he wants to make a go of
things and give it a dig (or not).
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| Thought Perry was awesome last night. When he's firing he's inspiring. Really gets in the faces and is a ball ache to tackle when he's fired up. I think he's the key because he lifts the others into being more energised in the tackle. All too often last night I could still see that timid defence which wasn't pushing Leeds back. When Perry was on he lifted us a few times and it's the kind of form that we need.
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| So Perry comes on and does that just as I've given up and written him off as looking past it... Marvellous... If he can keep that going for the rest of the season (BIG if) then he may turn into a decent signing after all.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Thought Perry was awesome last night. When he's firing he's inspiring. Really gets in the faces and is a ball ache to tackle when he's fired up. I think he's the key because he lifts the others into being more energised in the tackle. All too often last night I could still see that timid defence which wasn't pushing Leeds back. When Perry was on he lifted us a few times and it's the kind of form that we need.'"
indeed, more of the same please mr Perry
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Can you imaging the damage Leon Pryce could've done last night?'"
It makes me sad to think about it.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"I thought Shenton and Perry had two of their better performances in a Saints shirt. Clearly the speculation about Shenton had him fired up, he was everywhere defensively and his flick pass for Makinson's try was quality. Perry was much improved and when he looks for work and offloads the ball he can be quite a handful. Unfortunately, he's far too inconsistent and I don't anticipate much of a future unless he replicate yesterday's performance on a more regular basis.
Hohaia and Wheeler were rubbish I thought. Take out the kick for our opening try and Hohaia's contribution was minimal. [uSome of his kicking was horrendous and I don't think he really knows what he's doing in that position[/u. As for Wheeler, some shocking defensive reads and errors but he is just coming back from injury, so I'll give him a few weeks to bed in yet.'"
This highlights everything that is wrong with playing Hohaia at 6 - he doesn't know what he's doing!! It shows in our attack time and again. He is great a pointing at the defence and kicking the ball like he's playing aussie rules with the opposite full back, but other than that he is awful.
I was there last night and he didn't do anything of note what so ever. I try not to be negative about players without reason I'd rather be constuctive but we are carrying Hohaia and will be for as long as he is playing in a pivot position.
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| Wasnt all this said about Leon in his first season at 6 for us ? i seem to rememeber people bemoaning the fact his kicking was awfull and his passing was bad.Going of what Rush said post match last night Lance is going to be 6 for the rest of the season,we can moan and complain all we like but the bottom line is he wont be moved until next season IF Brown decides he isnt the 6 for him.
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| Lance was very poor IMO, the win seems to have glossed over some utterly rank kicking and decisions again.
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| whats with the skip Lance does when he gets the ball it slows him him down a tad when he should be on the move.To me he seems to think of what he is going to do next.But after saying that theres Tomkins he does the same thing but better at it .Lance does it regulary.Not a fan of Lance tho.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Lance was very poor IMO, the win seems to have glossed over some utterly rank kicking and decisions again.'"
I agree, Rush's comments about him are a worry, does he really think he's good? I realise he's not going to slate Lance in an interview, but to say hes going great is perplexing
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| We're winning aren't we. Lay off Lance.
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| Quote ="roader"We're winning aren't we. Lay off Lance.'"
if you can say the same on monday, I will
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| Quote ="roader"We're winning aren't we. Lay off Lance.'"
We may be winning but since Wigan are the top of the league at present, we will not be in for a chance of silverware unless we beat them.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"We may be winning but since Wigan are the top of the league at present, we will not be in for a chance of silverware unless we beat them.'"
Like last year.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Like last year.'"
We did beat them last year though but not only that we were a whole lot closer to them in all but one match during the regular rounds. Our first encounter ended in a draw and the Good Friday derby was lost to us in the last 50 seconds of the match. We have been nowhere near that on either encounter this year.
They have done their homework on us this season and have us nailed. And we don't have the coaching staff and/or players to return the favour.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"We did beat them last year though but not only that we were a whole lot closer to them in all but one match during the regular rounds. Our first encounter ended in a draw and the Good Friday derby was lost to us in the last 50 seconds of the match. We have been nowhere near that on either encounter this year.
They have done their homework on us this season and have us nailed. And we don't have the coaching staff and/or players to return the favour.'"
A lot can happen between now and then,they could get injuries,thay could lose form,the could pick up suspentions.Yes we have been quite well beaten by them recently,but its to early to give up.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"They have done their homework on us this season and have us nailed. And we don't have the coaching staff and/or players to return the favour.'"
There's plenty of time for them to find a winning formula. They've only been in the job for a couple of months.
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