Next week will show if losing 4 points over Easter was worth it. If we win at Leeds then it's accepted as we should win our next two league games but if we lose in the CC it's been a waste.


In hindsight, we should have picked a weakened team on Good Friday and got a win today.

Given the reaction on here as it was, could you imagine the uproar if we'd played a weakened side on Friday? Would of made more sense though :/

The win at Cas was vital and I think we knew it at the time. It gave us the breathing space for this weekend. Obviously the loss on Friday has highlighted this one. But I was expecting a beating today.

Not so much on Friday

At the end of the day we'd have took 2 from 4 which IMO is better than 0 from 4.


Like I said, the proof is in the pudding and we won't know until next Saturday if it was the correct thing to do.

Agreed, proof is in the pudding - a loss vs Leeds would make it a very poor Easter, but even then that's not the end of the world. We proved last year that we can play truly dire up until July and still make a decent fist of it.

I know we had a few young lads out today but that doesn't make some of the mistakes ok. We was dropping the ball regular, we made a mess of kick offs and out right hand side defence was awful.

Youngsters or not, those mistakes ain't acceptable at this level!

We had a decent side on the sidelines today! But that doesn't excuse players on the pitch (particularly senior ones)

Any news on Dawson?

All we did last year was finish the season in fifth, the lowest we'd finished a season in years and we didn't get anywhere near any finals. I don't see how that was a 'decent fist' of anything? Not by our standards anyway, although they seem to have slipped somewhat.

Just got back. How was that a try when Wilkin was clearly obstructed?

Savelio was brilliant. Masoe dodged some hard work in my opinion.

Not heard anything on Dawson. Hopefully swift back next week. He's had a calf injury.


Let's not get carried away with the "bad team" excuse. Widnes had a poor team out as well.


We still had Hohaia, makinson, wheeler, jones, Wilkin, wello, Sia, Mose who could all expect to be in our 17 next week plus the likes of greenwood, Thompson and walker who have played enough super league.

Mose doesn't do the hard yards. I worked that one out during the World Cup. Mose run well today tho.

Dawson has a fractured cheekbone.

I thought the decisions today were correct from the ref. we did well with what we put out there. Widnes are a decent side. But with Roby etc (Fozard only played part of the first half?) missing it was a struggle.

I was really disappointed with soliola. Had a shocking game.

Greenwood had a blinder and savelio was very good also. Masoe was very good and I think Jones has been our best player over the last month.

Walker is another one of our props who can't play the ball properly.

Some of the knock on she let go looked a little dubious to me.

Good effort from the young ones, with so many players out of position difficult to find any fluidity in attack. Defence still a problem whichever team we turned out, LMS, Jones and Wheeler not good performances.
Sav and Mose was a joy to watch, positive out of the game the young ones got the experience.

2 dodgy tries from Widnes I,m sure one of them would have been chalked off if we a video ref, Wilkin obstructed from tackling the player, being hammered for penalties in the first half didn,t help.

I don't know how people can accuse Mose of shirking after that. Him and Savelio basically took turns in carrying our pack single-handedly.

That was a frustrating game to watch, but I think we did about as well as we could have done with the pack we had out. Hand, Greenwood, Thompson and Walker all worked hard but none of them made any yards. Add to that Wellens and Wilkin who rarely make ground at the best of times and we were always going to struggle, especially when Sia had to move to centre early on.

We did show a lack of composure again, though. When your pack is up against it you really need to complete your sets, and we failed to do that again.

As for our defence, it was ropey but organisation of the defensive line is always going to be an issue when you put a scratch side together.

I believe that team was good enough to beat that Widnes team. I thought Mose pipped Saveilo for mom as Saveilio not on long enough.

I heard Makinson was injured in scoring his try? Did he seem to recover or are we going to be missing him next week?

He carried on so must be ok. Looked to be holding his arm but them was limping so not sure what he hurt.

He carried on playing and the official Facebook page said he is fine.

Perhaps, but it would have had to have been a performance on a par with the Leeds game.

Savelio should be in the team every week from now on, IMO.

You not think that team was good enough to beat a poor Widnes team? I didn't fancy us until I saw their team.

Hohaia, makinson, wheeler, jones, wello, Wilkin, Mose, Sia, Lms will all be disappointed if not in our 19 each week and the likes of greenwood, walker and Thompson all played super league.

We had chances and blew them.

Not a great time to be in such a mess. This kind of decline in form would have been fine had it come the week after next. It's going to take an extraordinary performance to beat Leeds on their patch now. Winning the big games in RL is about momentum from game to game. Our form graph would be pointing to the ground, Leeds the other way. We'll struggle to score 20 points and we'll really struggle to keep them short of 30.

Attitude has got to be there though. The last two games have shown we're lacking in the mental aspects of the game, we got out enthused and out fought by Wigan and didn't have the strength to be composed against Widnes. The effort, commitment and aggression needs to go up massively for next week and we've got to be clinical, no more wasting sets through not respecting the ball.

No.

SL isn't what is used to be. The top teams have declined enormously, the bottom also declined, but the middle has stayed where it is. The likes of Cas, Widnes, Hull, Hull KR, Wakefield, Catalans, Huddersfield are now all places we're going to have to play well to win at, even at full strength. Any messing about and we'll lose, as happened today.

Agreed, I'd play Andre off the bench from now. He's pure power and hard to put down. My only concern is his fitness. He's knackered after 10 mins and with our current prop situation could be a risk.