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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"You've got to hope there's and underlying reason for Gaskell going, as implied by certain posters, but we really need some sort of rudder at #7 so, we need to move for either a Moore, Finn or Brierly from the championship or try and get a NRL fringe player on loan for the rest of the season.
The other point is that, listening to the commentary, its the young saints lads that are performing - jones, Makinson, Percival , Walmsley and debutant Thompson.
Soliola apart, the old pros sound seriously lacking. It would be Intertesting to hear what the guys who've been to the game say.'"
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Soliola apart, the old pros sound seriously lacking. '"
That is the recurring theme. They're mainly lacking in attitude IMO. They don't have Jammer kicking their backsides like they did in 2011 when we last had the same problem. We have lazy seniors, bar Wello, and bad discipline, which is wholly and totally a coaching responsibility.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"he doesn't have to leave, he just has to recruit better. Unfortunately, rumours of Wellens and Boof being offered extensions suggests he's not improving with experience.'"
Apparently the optional 3rd year on Boof's contract is in the player's favour, so it's entirely up to him whether he stays or not. I'll be alarmed if we give Wello another playing contract, though.
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| Quote ="Dux"Apparently the optional 3rd year on Boof's contract is in the player's favour, so it's entirely up to him whether he stays or not. I'll be alarmed if we give Wello another playing contrast, though.'"
Doesn't matter who has the option. You just persuade him not to take it. If the club tells him he isn't wanted, he would go home.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"That is the recurring theme. They're mainly lacking in attitude IMO. They don't have Jammer kicking their backsides like they did in 2011 when we last had the same problem. We have lazy seniors, bar Wello, and bad discipline, which is wholly and totally a coaching responsibility.'"
Today in itself isn't the end of the world, lots of payers missing, London sounded like they playe squire well, goal kicking was the difference on the board. Problem is, we're so far up creek that every week there's 101 of these "understandable " reasons/excuses.
I'm sure now that Brown has a similar opinion of the regular season as Northampton Saint. He's just playing with his action figures and plotting for the end of the year. If he's not careful, however, we'll miss the playoffs completely.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Doesn't matter who has the option. You just persuade him not to take it. If the club tells him he isn't wanted, he would go home.'"
Agreed. I think there's ways we could use Boof better, but we've got some serious ground to make up and a quota spot is too valuable to use on a man going through the motions.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Today in itself isn't the end of the world, lots of payers missing, London sounded like they playe squire well, goal kicking was the difference on the board. '"
They scored a drop goal, so no, goal kicking wasn't the difference! (And they also kicked a penalty didn't they?)
IMO the difference was the discipline and the lacklustre behaviour of our senior players, bar Wello who even though he is a donkey was the one player following up on the wonderful Jones/Percival play which secured our final try.
As in 2011, our young players are doing us proud. However, unlike 2011 we don't have Jammer kicking the senior players up the backside, and that is the bit which is killing us, not the fact that we are missing players. With youngsters like Jones and Percival who both consistently make breaks, even against the big teams, the focus has to be on those letting the side down: players like Wilkin (getting banned) and LMS (giving away endless penalties and going into hiding going forward).
And then there also has to be a question mark over Brown because our discipline overall is shocking and clearly he isn't addressing it.
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| After getting over my initial despair and frustration. As weird as it sounds today wasn't so bad. We dominated the second half , and it was just lack of some magic from the halves that was missing. I am convinced that Lomax would have won that for us on his own. Onwards and upwards
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Agreed. I think there's ways we could use Boof better, but we've got some serious ground to make up and a quota spot is too valuable to use on a man going through the motions.'"
He should have been in the second row and we should have been exploiting his offload game, which is what he had a reputation for in the NRL.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"To be fair to those on the pitch it sounds like they did okay. Josh Jones seemed to have a great game from the commentary and they made it sound like we were camped on their line for large parts of the game.
Not sure we can blame the injuries and suspensions for this one, as we have no decent half backs anyway.
The club is a joke at present and is reaping the consequences of a decade of lazy and unambitious recruitment. We will set all kinds of records this season, losing games we never have before, losing record numbers of games and in bigger streaks than we ever have before. We are now as bad as Bradford after their fall from grace and there could be years of this to come unless McManus leaves.'"
Sadly your right and being camped on the opposition line huffing and puffing is exactly what you get with no proper halfbacks
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Agreed. I think there's ways we could use Boof better, but we've got some serious ground to make up and a quota spot is too valuable to use on a man going through the motions.'"
He's average at best , we could recruit average from the championship if needed for a fraction of what he'll be costing us
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"isnip'"
That line you quoted was not meant to be taken as a statement by itself, but in the context of the whole post. My post was that we're essentially losing every week now and while there are some valid reasons why we're struglling, even when chances appear for us to scrape the win, such as being 10-0 up, the coin is still failing to land Saints side up. We can only look on the bright side for so long.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"To be fair to those on the pitch it sounds like they did okay. Josh Jones seemed to have a great game from the commentary and they made it sound like we were camped on their line for large parts of the game.
Not sure we can blame the injuries and suspensions for this one, as we have no decent half backs anyway.
The club is a joke at present and is reaping the consequences of a decade of lazy and unambitious recruitment. We will set all kinds of records this season, losing games we never have before, losing record numbers of games and in bigger streaks than we ever have before. We are now as bad as Bradford after their fall from grace and there could be years of this to come unless McManus leaves.'"
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| Quote ="Top Saint"Prat!
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Apart from the McManus leaving bit I'm not sure what he's got wrong.
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From an outsiders point of view I think he is right apart from McManus.
Is McManus the new Wellens for the Sad One
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Apart from the McManus leaving bit I'm not sure what he's got wrong.'"
I agree with you he's exactly right.
NO HALFBACKS = NOBODY TO DICTATE AND CONTROL THE PLAY
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Apart from the McManus leaving bit I'm not sure what he's got wrong.'"
If McManus leaves we don't have a club. He is a wind up merchant who I have been unable to take seriously, EVER.
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| I was chatting on Twitter to a friend of a friend, who happens to be a Broncos fan. I asked him if anyone had impressed him today from our team:
"No one really stood out apart from Hohaia, who looked a class act. Walmsley has impressed me previously. LMS was sh*te"
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"I was chatting on Twitter to a friend of a friend, who happens to be a Broncos fan. I asked him if anyone had impressed him today from our team:
"No one really stood out apart from Hohaia, who looked a class act. Walmsley has impressed me previously. LMS was sh*te"'"
Maybe they'd swap him for Gower
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| That new contract for LMS is looking better VFM after each and every game lately.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"That new contract for LMS is looking better VFM after each and every game lately.'"
I'd love to have a conversation with whoever makes these decisions on contracts and hear them try and justify giving that clown a new deal.
Some of the decisions lately completely baffle me.
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| Did we lose another player today, was somebody carried off the pitch.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Did we lose another player today, was somebody carried off the pitch.'"
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| We could have played Forster today, a prop with at least some Super League experience, but no Saints decide to give a debut to one of our youngest props and pack Forster off to Rochdale.
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