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| Quote ="Albion"I think I said at the time that Smith would do better than expected at Wigan because of their structure.
I think most players with the basic skill set to play #7 would do a good job for Wigan. The emphasis at Wigan is on the runners rather than the HBs, it's all about getting the ball to Tomkins or using a second-rower on the short ball. Smith/Green do this well as they have a decent passing game and have a solid kicking game. This sort of structure is perfect for any HB.
At Saints it's a bit different. We don't seem to have that 'robotic' structure that Wigan have - it's not a dig, it's anything but that as it's highly effective. Put Smith into our team and I think he struggles.
Wigan have set the bench-mark for the way they play their offence, and I think when we use Lomax more at FB we will start to see a different structure to our play with ball: look how good Wilkin looked vs Wire when he was playing off Lomax...compare that with the game vs Hull KR where he looked like a second-rower playing at #7.
I don't think we have properly seen Wigan play a run of games without Tomkins and I think that is such a positive for them as he is integral. Is it a coincidence that they rarely win without him? Clarke talked about it on the stats show and I think I can remember them playing 8 games or so without him and only winning a couple. We will see how good Wigan [ireally[/i are when he goes to the NRL or Union.
Lomax will be that player for Saints in the coming seasons and it will be about keeping him fit.'"
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Long > Smith.
Eastmond > Smith
Smith > Wilkin
Simples.
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I was watching SL Fulltime last night and the more the program went on, the more angry I became. Every team has a settled half-back pairing, no matter how average they may be, that are taking their team around the park.
I really feel for the season ticket holders that have to make do with Wilkin and Wellens week in week out.
I'd rather have someone who is perceived as not good enough for us, ie: Sammut, Brough etc, than watch those 2 stink out the place.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I was watching SL Fulltime last night and the more the program went on, the more angry I became. Every team has a settled half-back pairing, no matter how average they may be, that are taking their team around the park.
I really feel for the season ticket holders that have to make do with Wilkin and Wellens week in week out.
I'd rather have someone who is perceived as not good enough for us, ie: Sammut, Brough etc, than watch those 2 stink out the place.'"
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Swift and Yates isn't it?
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Charnock and Hewitt at the minute.
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Either of those up to playing in the first team? Charnock looked very comfortable playing in the snow and up to it physically, but I noticed he wasn't given any responsibility and was left out of most attacking moves.
What about the likes of Hewitt and Yates?
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Charnock could, but Hewitt and Yates aren't quite up to it just yet. Both are still 2-3 years away in my opinion, but I expect the latter will get some game time next year.
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I would hope we will rectify the halfback issue in the pre-season, if not by mid-season.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I would hope we will rectify the halfback issue in the pre-season, if not by mid-season.'"
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Yates has got a broken hand at the momonet, i think.
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Sounds about right.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"It gets a bit Muddy with Hooper.
I think the plan was Scully to 6, but with Scully's injuries (from memory) Hooper ended up doing quite a few turns at halfback. There was also the odd guest appearance from Lyon at half.
But if you take it as a trio
Long, Martyn, Scully
Long, Scully, Hooper
Long, Pryce, Hooper (scully doing guest apperances)
Long, Pryce, Flannery (At this point I think we can say the 3rd pivot was lost from Saints and we proceeded with only 2, although I'd argue Pryce was more a 13 than a 6, but that's by the by. Flannery was not a pivot)
Long + Pryce alone was not enough for the GF.
Then it all gets messy with injuries again but we get several combo's
Long Pryce
Long Smith
Smith Pryce
Eastmond Pryce
Eastmond Lomax
Lomax + random
Wilkin Wellens'"
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If we don't sign a halfback for next season and don't get the cladding sorted, I won't be renewing my season ticket for the 1st time in 7 seasons.
I'm totally bored of watching this team try to attack, its so boring I can't wait for the game to finish.
I'm also sick of McManus BS reguarding the cladding, he had no intention of getting it done during the last pre season.
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| Quote ="St pete"If we don't sign a halfback for next season and don't get the cladding sorted, I won't be renewing my season ticket for the 1st time in 7 seasons.
I'm totally bored of watching this team try to attack, its so boring I can't wait for the game to finish.
I'm also sick of McManus BS reguarding the cladding, he had no intention of getting it done during the last pre season.'"
The two things have one thing in common - DOSH (or lack of it). |
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| Quote ="saint at wire"The two things have one thing in common - DOSH (or lack of it).'"
I've had a season ticket since I was 13, 22 years later I won't renew mine either if I don't see at least a decent prospect at halfback. I'm not asking for langer or Andrew johns just a decent half!!! |
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What's a 'halfback'?
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Perhaps Alex could play there?
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Perhaps Alex could play there?
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Perhaps Alex could play there?'"
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Perhaps Alex could play there?'"
I asked him last week again if he would! Didn't seem keen on the idea tbh! |
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"What's a 'halfback'?'"
Scrum half.
All relates back to field positions if you line up in a diagram on 8 lines:
8/8 Full back (whole number)
7/8 Wingers
6/8 Centres (sometimes called three quarters)
5/8 Stand off (called a five eighth in Oz)
4/8 scrum half (half back 4/8 = 1/2)
3/8 loose forward
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| Quote ="The Chief"Scrum half.
All relates back to field positions if you line up in a diagram on 8 lines:
8/8 Full back (whole number)
7/8 Wingers
6/8 Centres (sometimes called three quarters)
5/8 Stand off (called a five eighth in Oz)
4/8 scrum half (half back 4/8 = 1/2)
3/8 loose forward
2/8 second row
1/8 props & hooker'"
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I just the club are listening . No way I'm paying for a season ticket for next year to watch a second row and fullback play in the halves
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I just the club are listening . No way I'm paying for a season ticket for next year to watch a second row and fullback play in the halves
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"We wouldn't be giving up any pace.'"
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