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| Quote ="Saintly Warrior"Dave is the most exciting player I have seen for years. I can't wait to see him in action. I heard big things about him so went and seen it for myself, he is a very talented lad.'"
Calm down Mrs Hewitt, your son will be fine.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Where and when are the games being played Rogues?'"
Ince Rose Bridge on Saturday.
U15's kick off at 11:45 and U16's at 1 p.m.
Just a word of warning, the kick off times sometimes get changed. If they do (and I hear about it) I'll post the amended times on here.
Both games should be well worth watching.
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"Calm down Mrs Hewitt, your son will be fine.'"
I've heard lots of good things about him and it's one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Saturday. His Wigan opposite number (stand off) Jake Shorrocks is also a very good player.
At U16 for Wigan Jason Robinsons son Lewis Tierney is a very good fullback and goal kicker, and Ryan Hampshire at stand off is an outstanding talent.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Ince Rose Bridge on Saturday.
U15's kick off at 11:45 and U16's at 1 p.m.
Just a word of warning, the kick off times sometimes get changed. If they do (and I hear about it) I'll post the amended times on here.
Both games should be well worth watching.'"
Kick off times confirmed.
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| Under 15's Wigan 34 - 12 Saints
Under 16's Wigan 28 - 24 Saints
Wigan's under 15's and 16's finish season unbeaten.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Under 15's Wigan 34 - 12 Saints
Under 16's Wigan 28 - 24 Saints
Wigan's under 15's and 16's finish season unbeaten.
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They wouldn't if they had played Leeds U16's. Their pack is huge!!!!!!!
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| Wigan's 16s would be a match for any team in the country.
Very mobile pack and a great set of halves and they have the pace to finish on both wings too.
Impressive set of kids.
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| Watching Saints play Wigan and Saints play Leeds..
Leeds would, i belive, leave wigan in pieces.
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| I watched the first two games but couldnt get to the others. I thought the under15s were good enough going forward but it was there defence that let them down. They need to work on that if they are going to be a force at there age.
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| Quote ="Ollyisawire"Watching Saints play Wigan and Saints play Leeds..
Leeds would, i belive, leave wigan in pieces.'"
I watched Saints first team v Wire and then Quins.
I thought Quins were better. Can't say what would have happened.
There were a lot of teams the Wigan lads played that were clearly not up to scratch, maybe the RFL should look at getting the top scholarship teams to play off at the end of the season.
Lancs comp and Yorks comp and top two in each make the semi's?
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"I watched Saints first team v Wire and then Quins.
I thought Quins were better. Can't say what would have happened.
There were a lot of teams the Wigan lads played that were clearly not up to scratch, maybe the RFL should look at getting the top scholarship teams to play off at the end of the season.
Lancs comp and Yorks comp and top two in each make the semi's?'"
Well said.
I watched four of the six U15 and U16 Wigan games. Apart from the U16 game v Saints the rest weren't contests.
I've been arguing about the levels of academy/junior rugby for years, and something has to be done about it.
What I don't know. I've sunk a million beers (slight exaggeration) with friends and foes alike trying to find the answer.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well said.
I watched four of the six U15 and U16 Wigan games. Apart from the U16 game v Saints the rest weren't contests.
I've been arguing about the levels of academy/junior rugby for years, and something has to be done about it.
What I don't know. I've sunk a million beers (slight exaggeration) with friends and foes alike trying to find the answer.'"
I've often wondered if the Uni's could not be dragged into this, a bit like the universities in America. Some kind of scheme part funded by the RFL, could help with game expansion and a higher intensity wider spread competition. The uni's have all the sports science stuff already in place.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I've often wondered if the Uni's could not be dragged into this, a bit like the universities in America. Some kind of scheme part funded by the RFL, could help with game expansion and a higher intensity wider spread competition. The uni's have all the sports science stuff already in place.'"
Agreed, it would certainly help in bringing players through. Some which develop later and may not have gotten the chance.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I've often wondered if the Uni's could not be dragged into this, a bit like the universities in America. Some kind of scheme part funded by the RFL, could help with game expansion and a higher intensity wider spread competition. The uni's have all the sports science stuff already in place.'"
That's an excellent point.
Over in Aus the better kids are identified at an early age and put into what are basically sports colleges.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I've often wondered if the Uni's could not be dragged into this, a bit like the universities in America. Some kind of scheme part funded by the RFL, could help with game expansion and a higher intensity wider spread competition. The uni's have all the sports science stuff already in place.'"
Where Saints are concerned, they used to link up with Edge Hill, using their facilities. And Edge Hill already play in the Super 8 comp; they did well last season. So they already have an interest in RL. Your idea is a good one. Why not write to Saints about it? G'won! I dare ya!
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| It's not so much the facilities though, although I agree that would help. It's a complete restructuring of the competitions. Are teams at younger ages too focussed on results based rather than skill based?
Look at how many teams will play "big lads" rather than more nimble ones. What happens when the "big lads" grow only as big as smaller than the others.
Should there be encouragement for clubs via the salary cap to produce more of their own?
Should the first team squad players be helping out at the local amateur clubs?
Should our scouts be looking "outside the box" i.e looking at basketball, football, athletics for players?
So many questions.
I take a lot of stick on here but I've never been frightened to put my head above the parapet. I'm very passionate about this great game of ours, and before I go to that great Central Park in the sky I want us to beat those bl**dy Aussies.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Where Saints are concerned, they used to link up with Edge Hill, using their facilities. And Edge Hill already play in the Super 8 comp; they did well last season. So they already have an interest in RL. Your idea is a good one. Why not write to Saints about it? G'won! I dare ya!'"
One of my friends plays for Edge Hill, was top try scorer and player of the year last year. We probably would of seen him in the Saints squad if he hadn't spent his childhood years playing for Sale and then getting fed up of it. A good example of how you can pick players up later on in life, especially at university.
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| The U15s beat Crusaders 38-4 in Caerphilly today. Good team performance with a couple of lads out on England duty and a couple more carrying knocks.
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| Quote ="foz11"Is Ste Lucas still with Saints????'"
He as been playing for Thattos conference side. Also on a pay as you play deal with Saints iirc.
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| Quote ="smithovyick"The U15s beat Crusaders 38-4 in Caerphilly today. Good team performance with a couple of lads out on England duty and a couple more carrying knocks.'"
Can you do a match summary for us?
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"Can you do a match summary for us?'"
I not good at anything like that if I am being honest. I wouldn't like to single any of the lads out as it was a good all round team performance.
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| Quote ="smithovyick"I not good at anything like that if I am being honest. I wouldn't like to single any of the lads out as it was a good all round team performance.'"
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