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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"My thoughts FWIW;
Was disappointed with the numbers HKR brought, considering the legendary size of their following.
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Nice to know it is legendary, just shows you notice, maybe a more accomodating kick off time would bring service back to normal? Along with lower fuel prices and cheap tickets???
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Yes you can, if he doesn't illegally tackle him he doesn't get injured'"
What if the tackle had been legal (and I've no idea whether it was or not because I didn't see it)? Would that have meant that Briscoe's injury was NOT a result of a tackle?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"What if the tackle had been legal (and I've no idea whether it was or not because I didn't see it)? Would that have meant that Briscoe's injury was NOT a result of a tackle?'"
Then its part of the game isn't it? But he was injured due to foul play which is why you were penalised
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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"How did Josh Perry get man of the match? '"
Psychology. He was rewarded for looking better than in previous matches!
And, let's face it, Roby could be given MoM every match if the decision was based solely upon performances. This season there should be a special Roby trophy, awarded to him every match by default!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Then its part of the game isn't it? '"
Yes it is. My point exactly.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No you attacked a player in the air twice and now he is injured'"
Were you watching a different game? There was very little in BOTH incidents, and the knee injury could have been waiting to happen anywhere on the park.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Correction for the confused!!!!'"
Ah. It all makes sense to me now!
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| Quote ="nick hkr"Nice to know it is legendary, just shows you notice, maybe a more accomodating kick off time would bring service back to normal? Along with lower fuel prices and cheap tickets???'"
Legendary for promising alot, but delivering very little.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Psychology. He was rewarded for looking better than in previous matches!
And, let's face it, Roby could be given MoM every match if the decision was based solely upon performances. This season there should be a special Roby trophy, awarded to him every match by default!'"
Roby was fantastic.
If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.
Welham looked the England player not him.
And your way off Warrington and Wigan standard at the moment IMO.
You dont have quality players not involved right now admittedly
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| Quote =".Alice."Legendary for promising alot, but delivering very little.'"
Sounds like your side for the last 3 seasons
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Roby was fantastic.
If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.
Welham looked the England player not him.
And your way off Warrington and Wigan standard at the moment IMO.
You dont have quality players not involved right now admittedly'"
So what you are saying is that when HKR play dire and the goons, you are going to have a cricket score against you as you got pasted by a team who are "way off" the aforementioned teams.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"So what you are saying is that when HKR play dire and the goons, you are going to have a cricket score against you as you got pasted by a team who are "way off" the aforementioned teams.'"
We will
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"We will'"
10/10 for honesty.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.'"
I don't think Shenton was the problem at all. I think Gaskell was. He's our newbie halfback.
Quote Welham looked the England player not him.'"
Welham is a very good player but it's too early to say whether he is England standard. Is he in the Knights? He possibly should be if he isn't. He was the best player in your team last night.
Quote And your way off Warrington and Wigan standard at the moment IMO.'"
That would be why we almost beat Wigan at Cardiff without a first choice halfback partnership and our fullback going off injured, to be replaced by a 20 year old, I suppose. Wigan are beatable and if you're elevating them at this time then you have no clue.
We are nowhere near Warrington at present, no. But that's not an insult to me. So you will need to try a bit harder, especially given that your team has failed to win much in the match department so far this season.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't think Shenton was the problem at all. I think Gaskell was. He's our newbie halfback.
Welham is a very good player but it's too early to say whether he is England standard. Is he in the Knights? He possibly should be if he isn't. He was the best player in your team last night.
That would be why we almost beat Wigan at Cardiff without a first choice halfback partnership and our fullback going off injured, to be replaced by a 20 year old, I suppose. Wigan are beatable and if you're elevating them at this time then you have no clue.
We are nowhere near Warrington at present, no. But that's not an insult to me. So you will need to try a bit harder, especially given that your team has failed to win much in the match department so far this season.'"
First of all i dont need to try harder at anything, i gave an opinion just as you have given yours, or am i mistaken and your 12 years old and have no concept of debate.
Welham is in the full England train on squad and deservedly so, i think he has 7 tries in 8 rounds and his overall performances are good and consistant.
You may not like the idea that your deadly rivals are a better team and squad then you but in my opinion they are.
And if your judging on one off games like your draw in round one then does that make Harlequins better then you are they beat you this season.
Im fully aware that Rovers havent won many matches, ive attended each and every one of them.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Welham is in the full England train on squad and deservedly so, i think he has 7 tries in 8 rounds and his overall performances are good and consistant.'"
Fair enough. I didn't see his name included in the England squad when it was announced.
Quote You may not like the idea that your deadly rivals are a better team and squad then you but in my opinion they are.'"
Fair enough. We'll see how things pan out as the season progresses. They look nothing special to me this season; fairly average with the odd exception. Warrington, on the other hand, look a class act.
Quote And if your judging on one off games like your draw in round one then does that make Harlequins better then you are they beat you this season.'"
I'm judging Wigan on what I've seen of them since the season started. Hence my opinion above.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.'"
Shenton's defence was terrific, it was Gaskell that got caught out on that side a few times. Obviously his inexperience is a significant reason for poor positioning at times.
As for the debate about whether we're near Wigan or Warrington's standard at the moment, possibly not (although I'm sure we'd have a good chance against a poor Wigan at the moment), but you don't win trophies in April. I'd say we're slowly improving each game and will no doubt improve further when Wilkin and Pryce play regularly behind a strong pack and Lomax continues to develop at 7. I'm happy with where we are, but we will probably come short again in terms of trophies in my honest opinion. We'll certianly be competitive though and we're not light years away.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Shenton's defence was terrific, it was Gaskell that got caught out on that side a few times. Obviously his inexperience is a significant reason for poor positioning at times.
As for the debate about whether we're near Wigan or Warrington's standard at the moment, possibly not (although I'm sure we'd have a good chance against a poor Wigan at the moment), but you don't win trophies in April. I'd say we're slowly improving each game and will no doubt improve further when Wilkin and Pryce play regularly behind a strong pack and Lomax continues to develop at 7. I'm happy with where we are, but we will probably come short again in terms of trophies in my honest opinion. We'll certianly be competitive though and we're not light years away.'"
Id agree with that and with the quality in your squad you will be there or there abouts.
I just think Wire and Pies have raised the bar.
Very impressed by Lomax also and the more game time your youngsters get the better they will be in the seasons ahead.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"I just think Wire and Pies have raised the bar.'"
Of course you do mean that we raised the bar and now Wire and Pies have caught up.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Of course you do mean that we raised the bar and now Wire and Pies have caught up.'"
I think they have more than caught up as they have now passed us while we still in rebuilding phase.
Full credit Is due to saints over last 2/3 years as we've remained in the hunt while rebuilding.
Your correct, saints raised the bar and set the standard for every super league club in the super league era.
With the addition of few good quality players and the current young squad I think it won't be long before we overtake Wigan and Warrington.
IMO Wigan don't look half the team they was last year so far this year.
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| Quote ="St pete"Your correct, saints raised the bar and set the standard for every super league club in the super league era. '"
That's exactly what I meant. The peak of that was 2006. No-one else has yet managed a 2006 of their own. Until they do, we were the ones to set the standard, no matter where our current team is in the league or what it is like.
Quote IMO Wigan don't look half the team they was last year so far this year.'"
I agree. Warrington have been the ones to shine so far this season.
I'm happy with the way our play is developing so far. We are looking more expansive, even if it is early days yet. I'll be more than happy if we are playing in the style of Wests Tigers by the back end of the season.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.'"
Shenton was the guy with "No 3, Shenton" on his shirt. Defending one in from Gaskell, who was marking Welham and later Webster in the centre channel. I suggest you take your glasses next time
And, I'm sorry Briscoe got injured, but there was absolutely no foul play in Lomax's jump for the ball - its just one of those things.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"And your (sic) way off Wigan standard at the moment IMO.'"
I wouldn't say we're way off - we're only 1 point above them and it's a long season. They could well still finish above us.
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| Stop crying Hull KR fans. You should be more concerned at the fact your squad is full of overseas rubbish. Had Hull KR give youth a chance regulary then you might of had a replacement for Briscoe in your reserves.
Poor way of taking defeat.
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| Quote ="Obsessive Saint"Stop crying Hull KR fans. You should be more concerned at the fact your squad is full of overseas rubbish. Had Hull KR give youth a chance regulary then you might of had a replacement for Briscoe in your reserves.
Poor way of taking defeat.'"
We have replacements but Morgan never gives them enough game time !
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