Pathetic Attendance for a Club considered one of the super powers, just goes to show how fickle you lot are. When things get tough you all abandon ship. Shameful day for St Helens.

Of course that pricing may be a direct reflection of what Halton Council is charging Saints to play in the stadium, especially bearing in mind that Saints will have factored in the Saints-fan mentality of not travelling further than the local pub to whatch their team get mullered. Sorry, I mean play.

Please remind me. Why is it that we call it the Wigan Walk?

Perhaps he should get his son a junior season ticket which wouldn't be much different than going to a couple of matches. Although offhand I am not sure of Junior Season ticket prices for the North stand. The East stand is about £35 pounds I think.

What was the Castleford crowd against Catalans tonight?

We havn't got a ship, we are rentees like the Wigoons.

4400 I think, shocking.

thats a bit rich coming from a pie i remeber several yrs back wigan was forced to play a home game at widnes cause the wendyball was playing and your attendance was only around the same figure , and lets not forget the saints specs will be doin this for a full season so please take off your cherry & white tinted glasses , ps im not a great lover of saints either but they have always been slow to starters to a season and they will there or there abouts come october

The Wigan v Bradford game was a first round play off game and you know it. The attendances at those games are always down on the league games as all spectators have to pay ( no season tickets)

I presume Saints decided on the pricing policy for Widnes, and may have to do a re-think otherwise losses for this season could hit around £1 million.

Monday - Saturday at Finch Farm, Halwood, Everton's training ground.

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[url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/tickets/page/445SUPPORTERS can save £3 by buying their ticket in advance![/url

F*** me even the club & supporters club have arranged buses to get you to & from Widnes on matchdays.

Alternatively, you could get yer crayons out and write to league express letters page.

And no wonder the convicts call us whinging poms!

Saving £3... means the ticket is still £23 and those buses you point out cost £4 (if i'm not mistaken), £4.20 for people getting the bus off of their own back rather than through the club, most coaches are about £4 too.

So, outings to home matches for people in those stands are still costing a minimum of £27, £7/8 more than at Knowsley Road.

Welcome to some of the problems faced by QRL in attracting support in regards to cost for many of the supporters who are spread over the South East of England. It won't be long before we are on equal terms, look at the figures from Cas, Cats game.

BINGO.

Playing the long game. A purpose built stadium in a town centre location with all mod cons awaits. Cue improved attendances (a la Halliwell Jones, KC Stadium) and improved club revenues from gates, hospitality, merchandise etc.

It's going to be painful for a while, but worth it in the long run.

Boo f****** hoo. What where you expecting to pay 7/6d and a few whippets for tickets??

Have a word with Eamonn McManus and his fellow directors. Their pursuit of the holy grail of a Superleague title whilst taking their eye off the ball regarding superleague stadium criteria is the reason you now squatting at Widnes.

Why swear? Because your previous post has been proved to have no point? That's mature, well done.

Try reading the rest of the thread, where most people have made good points as to why attendances are down this season.

Sorry. Remind us. You are....fulham (failed)........broncos (failed again)....... Quins (owned by RU).
oh yeah, thats a lot of work on a new stadium isn't it.

Soooooooooooooo predictable.

As Quin RL we have always played in a SL criteria stadium and not a toilet. sorry historic RL Venue.

As for being "owned" by a RU club now not's let the truth get in the way of a good story. eh??

Now run along and get your crayons out so you can write to league express about expansion not working/Boo Hoo players are leaving for Union./it's the Quins RL fault for the crowd being 30% ish down on last years corresponding fixture at KR/ The RFL are ruining the game and don't respect it's heritage/Why aren't Cumbria in SL, that's easier to get to than that London

Indeed. That's because you've only been in existence five minutes compared to Saints, who were one of the founding members of the rugby league. In fact, without the likes of Saints, Quins RL wouldn't exist at all because there would be no RL. So actually you should be thanking us profusely for your current success instead of making childish comments about something out of our control: namely, a stadium that at the outset of Superleague was considered one of the best in the league but due to changing expectations fast became one of the worst. However, it was also the stage for a quality of rugby league you may never see at any home ground of Quins RL.

Widnes home games are:

£12 (£6), £15 (£icon_cool.gif, £20 (£12) for pre-match purchase

£15 (£10), £20 (£12), £25 (£16) for purchase on the day.

I assume that Halton Council charge the same to St Helens as they do to Widnes - after all, the game is still the same length, yet St Helens are charging

£17 (£11) and £22 (£16) for advance purchases.

Factor in the additional travel costs and its little wonder their crowds have dropped.

To me, it seems the St helens board are being greedy in asking their fans to travel every week and then charge them more for the priviledge. They have no ground maintenance costs this year (only rent), so every penny above the rent can either go in salary or in the coffers for next year.

That's a bit rich TLQ, from a club that blood sucks the Rl in providing no financial contribution to super league clubs and relies on away fans to supplement there existence. The club then has the audacity to come up with double headers to massage the attendances back to Rl.
I stopped going to your club last year when the union management ambushed the super league fixture and forced us to pay union gate prices.
It would be great if the club reach the grand final this year, would we see the justification in the clubs existence with around 1200 Quinn fans in a 72000 stadium at such a prime event.

Is there any chance you could make a post without swearing or is that beyond you?

Show me a club that doesn't factor in certain "away" attendances in their financial planning? And why should any away sides support make a "financial contribution" to any SL club. It's for the home side to get the crowds through the gate not for the away side to provide a "financial contribution.

And poor home attendances is an issue that many Quins RL fans have been vocal about for sometime. RL has an "image" problem. When the football season ends and I try to encourage some of my football loving mates to the Stoop to watch RL the response more than often is the "No thanks, RL is for northerners". They are of course incorrect but that's the reality Quins RL face, a sceptic public both north and south.



I and most Quins RL fans wouldn't disagree with you on that one. Perhaps you didn't read Simon Fitzjohn & Jo Rooney's [url=http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/sport/8091485.Quins_RL_slammed_for_ticket_price_hike/excellent crtique[/url of the double header fiasco of last season. I hope the only double headers we get at The Stoop this season include 2 RL matches on a match day..




Yes it would be good for Quins RL in particular and RL in general if an "unfancied" side got to the grand final but I doubt it would happen and no doubt in the unlikely scenario it did happen that a few saints shirts will be seen whether Saints make the grand final or not.



And there in lies the rub. Saints have a wage bill to pay. That makes them no different than any other SL club. I suspect admission prices have also factored in what would be lost in a) reduced numbers of fans through the gate because of the year's squat in Widnes b) lose of other match day revenue streams (eg matchday refreshments).



Ah yes they "historic club" defence.

Yes the game was born in a northern hotel 115 years ago. So what? Ah yes, us "southern shandy drinking poofs" and the current RFL bosses don't understand/appreciate the games heritage and treat it with disrespect.

We are, well some of us at least, are living in the 21st century. That means facilities that meet the aspiration of the 21st century. As I said before your squatters because your club focused on the holy grail of superleague success, without to much success it must be said, whilst ignoring the need for modern stadia because "We're Saint Helens, don't you know".

As for thanking you (Saints) for our current "success" thats far more to do with the current coach and his players. But as our coach continues to state we ain't the finished article and there is a long way to go this season yet.



I'm sure you heard far worse than my little slip of the keyborad at Widnes on Friday. Always assuming your not one of the "stayaways".

So that's a no then; swearing and derogatory comments in all of your posts. You could be banned you know.

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