it doesnt seem to bother anyone else

Overseas Saints players, Flannery, Puletua, Soliola, Perry, think that's it. What's the quota this year?? ps not certain what passport any have used?


Vatican passport??? (we are the Saints)

I could be wrong but I'm sure than when I looked at our squad and their status, there were only 3 taking up quota spots. I don't think Puletua took one.. Did he use his Samoan passport?

why is it?

and why does it bother you?

Correct

Quote ="HOMER2355"Correct'" INcorrect: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html Quote But that has placed a question mark over the future of the injured Dobson, with the RFL yesterday claiming he was a "free agent" because his contract had been terminated by Rovers. Whilst the RFL insist the Aussie play-maker's contract situation remains unchanged, they have moved to clarify their stance on the issue. In a statement issued today, the RFL said: "Michael Dobson's contract was terminated on Thursday March 10 and Willie Mason's registration was accepted.'"

Quote ="HOMER2355"Correct'" INcorrect: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html Quote But that has placed a question mark over the future of the injured Dobson, with the RFL yesterday claiming he was a "free agent" because his contract had been terminated by Rovers. Whilst the RFL insist the Aussie play-maker's contract situation remains unchanged, they have moved to clarify their stance on the issue. In a statement issued today, the RFL said: "Michael Dobson's contract was terminated on Thursday March 10 and Willie Mason's registration was accepted.'"

As FTV says on the other thread, what the rfl say and what is legal can be very different

No, the RFL have said his playing contract has been cancelled meaning he has been de-registered and has been placed on their free agent register. Maybe Hull KR have entered into some other arrangement with him where he promises not to sign for someone else but that doesn't mean his original contract hasn't been cancelled.

And again to repeat what FTV said, thats what bradford thought with Harris and that panned out really well for them didnt it?

Quote ="SEB"INcorrect: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html '" nope that is incorrect. The player remains a contracted employee of Hull Kingston Rovers. he is at the moment therefore unregistered to play, so effectively another club could seek to register him as a player however, because he is contracted to rovers they would have to seek rovers permission, which would they would refuse!

Quote ="SEB"INcorrect: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html '" nope that is incorrect. The player remains a contracted employee of Hull Kingston Rovers. he is at the moment therefore unregistered to play, so effectively another club could seek to register him as a player however, because he is contracted to rovers they would have to seek rovers permission, which would they would refuse!

This is slightly different, as i recall it.

As part of the agreement to let harris go before his contract was up Leeds agreed to cancel harris contract, yet retained his registration with the rugby league.

Harris after a few years in the union, and the bulls argued that because his contract was terminated they weren't allowed to retain his playing registration, and they were wrong.

A players registration and contract are 2 different things.

With dobson you have a player who is no longer registered (so rovers dont hold his playing registration), however they have a contract with him. so for someone to register him they would have to seek rovers permission or buy his contract out.

If you know what you have written to be true, please back up with links and quotes proving it. I've read the rules several times and read several quotes backing up what I've said, not what you say. The rules are quite clear that in order to remove a player from the register, their contract must be terminated.

So saints could in theory register him and he wouldn't be able to play for Rovers.

If true i think the other teams should do a whip round and buy his registration and not let Rovers play him. That is what you are saying regards the Harris situation?

Saints could only register him with the permission of HKR, as he is still an employee of HKR.

Saints could only register him with the permission of the RFL, HKR stopped having anything to do with that once they de registered him. Registrations are held by the RFL, not the clubs. That's why the RFL say he could sign for anyone else.

HKR may well then take him to court in regard to the playing contract he signed, but if Masons Tongan passport does not come through, or the RFL refuse to take him off the quota given this blatent attempt to get round the rules then I suppose Dobson could take HKR to court for restriction of trade or something similar. More likely they will terminate his contract and save on cap space and he'll sign elsewhere if that happens.

Youve got to read behind the sensational side of the story.

Firstly as stated (although different terminologies are used), HKR deregisted MDobson as a player, affectively terminating his playing contract. However as stated by the RFL in doin this HKR may have other contractual agreements to retain the player (which they have), this means without the permission of HKR who are, and remain his employers (as hes still been paid), no other club can register him. I know this because thats what the chairman said and if you read into the RFL hint at this, and furthermore do you seriously beleive HKR would of done this without making sure they were water tight on retain michaels services?

Now with regards to willie and his passport, its only a matter of time, he has letters and everything from the tongan authorities saying he qualifies for tongan nationality and his passport is on its way, however the rfl will only accept the passport itself as proof. so the hypothetical questions of what if his passport doesnt arrive, will remain hypothetical.

Reading it and listening to the chairman, suggests to me the RFL have been involved all the way and advised HKR on how to do get Willie to play, as the RFL wanted him playing as soon as possible jsut as rovers did, as the guy is box office and has brought some much needed attention to Super League and rugby league in general.

Tbh, I don't think it really matters. No one is going to sign him whilst he is injured, and the RFL will allow Mason to come off quota. In reality it's a non story, but a few of you get pulled in

Bigest non story of the season ,Dobson is a Robin and wont be going anywere .

probably the worst of any of the half backs in superleague...

It is true our chairman said it was true that although 'Technically he is a free agent according to the RFL, But in the eyes of the law he STILL is contracted to Hull KR'.
Its called playing the rules to suit us.
You know how that works right?, I mean you must do what with the salery cap and all that.