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| Its a dilema, I can see the potential for getting an experienced halfback back, but i really think Longy is (way) past it. I'd favour the sink or swim tactic, (risky as it is) myself
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Can't agree with this.
Some players are more prone to injury than others. Some people are more prone to certain ailments or diseases than others. Some people have stronger hearts than others. Some people have stronger bones than others.'"
The point I'm making is that "injury proneness" is unknowable. Even if a player has some weakness in a ligament or a tendon etc. and he injures the same again - we can't say for sure that a fully fit person wouldn't have suffered precisely the same injury. For all we know the load that was placed on the body part may have been too much even for a healthy person to take.
If we cannot know for sure whether a player is prone to injury it's pretty pointless to bring the notion of "injury proneness" into debate.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Its a dilema, I can see the potential for getting an experienced halfback back, but i really think Longy is (way) past it. I'd favour the sink or swim tactic, (risky as it is) myself'"
I agree with you, personally I wouldn't go for him. Isn't he injured anyway? That would negate any benefit needed from Pryce missing. He's also want at least a year.
We may be better looking at a short term loan from the NRL or something similar, just to cover the Pryce injury.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"The point I'm making is that "injury proneness" is unknowable. Even if a player has some weakness in a ligament or a tendon etc. and he injures the same again - we can't say for sure that a fully fit person wouldn't have suffered precisely the same injury. For all we know the load that was placed on the body part may have been too much even for a healthy person to take.
If we cannot know for sure whether a player is prone to injury it's pretty pointless to bring the notion of "injury proneness" into debate.'"
I agree to an extent - I'll stop saying Wheeler is injury prone and just say he has a proven track record of being unable to avoid injury
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| Quote ="Mugwump"The point I'm making is that "injury proneness" is unknowable. Even if a player has some weakness in a ligament or a tendon etc. and he injures the same again - we can't say for sure that a fully fit person wouldn't have suffered precisely the same injury. For all we know the load that was placed on the body part may have been too much even for a healthy person to take.
If we cannot know for sure whether a player is prone to injury it's pretty pointless to bring the notion of "injury proneness" into debate.'"
There may be a number of reasons, that he may or may not grow out of in the future, or stop being unlucky with, but what we do know is that at the moment Wheeler misses a lot of gametime due to injury. That means he is too unreliable to rely on as a half back until he comes out the other side and manages to put a decent run of consecutive games together.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"We may be better looking at a short term loan from the NRL or something similar, just to cover the Pryce injury.'"
This would be the best option, but how are we fixed quota spots, i've a feeling we've none spare, i count Meli, Puletua, Flannery and Perry and Soliola. Isnt the limit (unless you're Hull KR) 5?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"This would be the best option, but how are we fixed quota spots, i've a feeling we've none spare, i count Meli, Puletua, Flannery and Perry and Soliola. Isnt the limit (unless you're Hull KR) 5?'"
We could always deregister Meli
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"We could always deregister Meli
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I thought of that, but he was one of our better players on friday
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought of that, but he was one of our better players on friday'"
I was only joking
Soliola then?
Of course when Pryce is back, then I think a lot of this is unnecessary. His has been the key injury this year that has caused a lot of this problem.
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| for the record, Ben Jones-Bishop out for 16 weeks. Gutted for him, was hitting some form this season.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"This would be the best option, but how are we fixed quota spots, i've a feeling we've none spare, i count Meli, Puletua, Flannery and Perry and Soliola. Isnt the limit (unless you're Hull KR) 5?'"
I don't think Meli and Puletua count. Don't they have Samoan passports? There was a squad list posted in one of these threats with the players' status' next to them, I'm sure there were only 3 players taking up a quota space..
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| Quote ="Poyser11"I don't think Meli and Puletua count. Don't they have Samoan passports? There was a squad list posted in one of these threats with the players' status' next to them, I'm sure there were only 3 players taking up a quota space..'"
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"
Of course when Pryce is back, his has been the key injury this year that has caused a lot of this problem.'"
When is Leon due back?
It seems like ages since he last played a couple of back to back games.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"When is Leon due back?
It seems like ages since he last played a couple of back to back games.'"
It was said after the Catalan game that he'd be out for another 2 months. So May-ish I would guess. And it was just before last years CC Semi that he played games back to back I think.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"When is Leon due back?
It seems like ages since he last played a couple of back to back games.'"
He won't be fit for 2 months
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"He won't be fit for 2 months
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I hope it's not the same injury as Eamon O'Carroll. He's been out since May last year and it looks as though he won't play again this season (if ever).
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought of that, but he was one of our better players on friday'"
Where you watching a different game to me?
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="Blobbynator"He won't be fit for 2 months
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I hope it's not the same injury as Eamon O'Carroll. He's been out since May last year and it looks as though he won't play again this season (if ever).'"
It isn't, Pryce's injury is a common one but he is paying the price (ahem) for coming back too early and tore it off the bone in the process. You have to wonder what the medical staff are playing at.
By the sounds of it, O'Carroll could be struggling. Got to feel sorry for the lad.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I thought of that, but he was one of our better players on friday'"
apart from running the ball directly into touch on the first tackle from a Quins penalty?
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| Looks like Tony P is injured also. Both he and LMS are 'serious doubts' for Saturday, according to the Saints website, with Matty Ashurst and Sean Magennis 'standing by'.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Looks like Tony P is injured also. Both he and LMS are 'serious doubts' for Saturday, according to the Saints website, with Matty Ashurst and Sean Magennis 'standing by'.
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| Quote ="EHW"apart from running the ball directly into touch on the first tackle from a Quins penalty?'"
No that was Eastmonds fault, well according to quite a few sat around me.
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| Paul Clough has also gone down with tonsilitis according to the St.Helens Star!
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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"We'd best take plenty of Vaseline to Shedingley on Saturday then, to ease a 'dry one'!!!!'"
Good thing Leeds are at Full Strength then
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Paul Clough has also gone down with tonsilitis according to the St.Helens Star!'" I'd expect this to put pressure on LMS and Puletua to play, then.
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| What's the news this week, then?
Will we have LMS back?
Will Clough have shaken of the effects of his knock?
Did Wheeler manage to get through his 10 minutes without harm?
How's Perry's rotator cuff?
Are Pryce and Wilkin any closer to a comeback?
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