I'm just repeating what Wire fans were saying at the beginning of the year about our squad on the slide, assembled on the cheap.

Even Warringtons best young player is a Widnes lad. Their captain is from Salford , their key-playmaker is from St Helens I could go through the whole team but its too boring. Warringtons youth system...what youth system?

TBF the live cap prevents any clubs declared wages from exceeding the cap. Therefore if the OP is right any investigation would be regarding undeclared payments. IF this were the case there is no way it would be made public unless the investigation was complete and they were found guilty. I would be reasonably confident that this is just speculation made over a few pints.

It is however refreshing and entertaining that these allegations are no longer being made in our direction.

just had a look at the starting 13

from what I can see only 2 home grown in the 1st 13 (riley and harrison) - all the rest have been signed from other clubs

Cooper and McCarthy on the bench

To my recollection Emmitt played u18's with Warrington's Academy. He then sat out the last year of his contract and played rugby union at Lymn. He may have then gone to play at Blackbrook whilst waiting for clearance to sign for Saints. Of course my memory may be wrong and you are right.

5 more Warrington produced players to play first grade:

Tyrone McCarthy
Matty Blythe
Alex Thompson
Rhys Williams
Adam Neal

There you go: enlightened.

You are right, it isn't perfect at the moment, the first team isn't made up of many of our youth team products. Hopefully now that the other aspects of the club seen to be heading in the right direction, the youth production line will also improve.


As for the salary cap, I'm bored of hearing supporters of other clubs banging on about our finances, when the truth is that none of us know. It is especially boring when the allegations come from fans of those clubs that have breached the rules in the past.

Neal, Thompson when the hell have these two played first grade? Never heard of em. Blythe is out in the wilderness at Leigh and Williams and McCarthy i give you although they've hardly made an impression. Read my original post i included Saints players who have actually played first team for Saints on numerous occassions now. I could include Bradbury, Ellis, Yates, Johnson, Magennis, Gaskell etc from the U-20's on your criteria due to the fact there all in the first team squad but decisevely haven't yet played first grade..actually Ellis played last year but hardly qualifies in the criteria due to lack of gametime.

He's not going to come out and say "Nah, we're only spending £1.1m mate, we're spending the rest on the furniture for my office in the new ground" are they?

The fans might revolt.

Just to clarify: Warrington players who have actually played first grade don't count whilst Saints players who haven't played first grade do count. An interesting concept and one that I may suggest tends to sway the stats in your favour.

thanks im ready for bed now,grow up.

Oh dear

They are all played first team rugby for Wire.

Another thing that doesn't really work is this thinking that just because they come from the U17s or whatever to the first team that even though players are very good they won't be on top money.

Maybe someone forgot to tell Melbourne Storm's players that came through the set up and from the Norths Devils that they shouldn't be earning top wage.

Isn't that hobby horse worn out yet Rogues? Anyway, when will Wigan be playing their first game at [itheir [/iground.

Could it be beyond the realm of possibility that these 2 players joined us for maybe a fraction more of what they were on at their previous clubs but saw a chance to challenge for medals, trophies etc???

What i find laughable is the fact nobody cares about us as stated earlier but there are plenty of Saints fans on here who are getting very hot under the collar at this topic, if we were scraping the top 8 this discussion would not be happening

Just saw Lee Briers at the lights in his Lamborghini and he said there's no way they're over, then I saw Morley on Carr Mill Dam on his speedboat and he said the same.

I don't think anyone is saying top players aren't on top money if they've come through the ranks, but they do tend to be cheaper than bought in talent at the top of their game. In our squad only a few will be on top money, the likes of Cunningham and Wellens are in the twilight of their careers and have signed reduced contracts, the likes of Eastmond and other youngsters are on the way up and aren't yet on their biggest deals. I reckon Eastmond is on less than Myler, and Morley is on more than Cunningham, for example.

As for the discussion on Warrington's youth system, it's obvious that they are only just starting to develop it, isn't it only a year or two ago they had no U18s or something similar (I seem to remember that we stuffed them in a game and their coach stated there was a major age difference)? It takes years to develop a youth system, we are only just really getting a number of good youngsters through. I don't see what the problem is, at least they are starting to do it.

They even paid for 2 young Wales lads to move to Warrington from Wales. Setting up their family with good money (Rhys and Ben Evans).

Hows that different to us signing Eastmond from Oldham?

Or Charnock, Galbraith etc

They bought their mum and dad a family home in the North west of England to Relocate their family from South Wales. Thats whats different!

Good on them.
I hope both lads become top class players, it's called rewarding investment.

Why didn't Saints (or Wigan) do it. Wigan took Mossop down from Cumbria, and hopefully we'll see a few more of his standard at Wigan.

Why dont many other clubs do it ? Simple really.

125k plus house , plus two salaries = ALOT of pennies spent on two 16 year old lads.

Saints have also done it with Greg Richards. We've signedhim from Barrow. However like i've stated he travels down to St Helens by car. We dont splash out on houses etc... which counts on the salary cap.

Not in this case it doesn't does it?

It's Wires money to risk (invest). What if they paid for the kids to go on tour to Australia every couple of years as an enticement to sign. Is that o.k.