so Graham is going the same way is he??

hopefully not

Most of the aussie players in their 30s started out in there teens. It has nothing to do with what age you start at, and more so how you look after yourself during your professional years and if you are lucky enough to avoid serious injury.

Meli can be fantastic on his day,
other days just looks like he cant be d, which everyone agrees does seem to be down to an attitude problem.

I say get rid. Get these youngsters up to scratch.
I agree with that phrase if they are good enough, they are old enough.

I have total faith in any decisions made by Saints

Some utter tripe on this thread.

Folk refering to the good/great players of the last few years who played from an early age as just 'freaks' and such. Maybe these lads were just the most talented bunch of their generation, regardless of when they were sustained first teamers?

They played because they were good enough, which is the exact point being made. If they are good enough, regardless of age, they should play. If not, then they don't. Injuries are common in a game such as rugby, again regardless of age.

including not giving Foz another season?

As I understand it, Foz was offered a 12 month deal, but he wanted 2yrs+ hence why he signed for KR.

I've prosecuted several lads who have thought that!

No.

Depends on salary cap. Tony P looks a far far better player than Foz is and we need cap space for a centre.

Fozz looks a far better player than Cayless at present.

Has anyone seen JC?

lmao

and? Cayless was not off contract.

Not since 2007

Very worried about JC. It reminds of the Scully route from a few years back. He didn't play long minutes today.

He looked pretty fragile getting up from a couple of tackles tonight. Easily dealt with too, very Scully(2006 onwards)-esqe.

His final fling was Brisbane in the WCC. You could clearly see the guy was over as a RL player yet that night he pushed his body as far as he could. You could also gain a sense of the fact that it was because he recognised his worth to Saints and to British RL in general; he had to leave a mark. He did so and I doubt he will be forgotten. For me....the most important player to Saints of the past 20 years and that includes Cunningham and Long.

Wilkin will never be fit to lace his boots.

Not convinced after tonights embarassing show in the kicking competition...

Me too, not ready to write him off yet but he looks a shadow of the player he used to be at the moment.

Meli - situation is a joke - all other high profile ones seem to have been decided favourably or unfavourably. Why is Meli situation taking so long? Is the pushing as hard as he can to get it sorted?

I would probably get rid.

Solution?

Bring in Dave Halley or similar type as stop-gap until youngsters develop a bit more?

Agreed .Time to look at other options. Can't just rely on Armstrong (who is
not a winger anyway) and Gardner.

Playing Wheeler , Foster or others out of position will just hamper their development. Giving youth a chance is an excellent strategy and
players need to be flexible. eg A stand off playing centre or Half backs
having a run at hooker etc. However sticking bodies on the wing
is a career killer.


Halley looks good. I would take a punt on Penny , Mills from Widnes
or even Ford from Cas for a month or so to see how they go
with a longer term assessment to be made at the end of the season.

Proper wingers with pace is what the Saints public is
crying out for.

Others on here, and I agree with them would like Luke Rooney, currently disgruntled in French RU

this the real world u cant go round saying that u want him n him, when some of them are their best players

It doesn't look like he's coming back to be honest. If he's not coming back we'll have to recruit IMO. Our squad was small to begin with.