Take that into consideration and do what?

I couldn't care less what other players think of him, what are you so upset about?

Sculthorpe was IMO the best player of his generation, he was also the most petulant.

Not upset at all, just pointing out that the views of other players back up what most are saying in the thread.

Something that one of your fellow fans seems to think is made up, maybe that's because it doesn't support his, or other fans argument.

I cant be bothered reading all the posts so who doesn't believe it and how does it not support their argument?


Every time you have a whining thread about Bailey this fans forum thing gets brought up, was it one meeting a long time ago or do you have regular forums with regular conversations about Bailey in Saint Helens?

By fans forums we mean testimonial evenings of which we've had alot over the past few years, this year is Mike Bennett's testimonial.

Yes, the conversation normally goes like:

Fan: Who is the biggest $hithouse, or the most arrogant/dirtiest player in SL.

Everyone who matters: Ryan Bailey.

So you're still claiming he is a dirty player. May i point these out to you, [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php?player=Ryan+Bailey&club=Leeds&from_day=&from_month=&from_year=&to_day=&to_month=&to_year=&league=&charged=&search=searchHow many charges and actual bans?[/url

Must be so much fun, do fans pay to attend? and the same question gets asked every time?.

It is, i'll buy you a ticket for the next one and you can argue the case against if you like. It will be worth the money.

Just compared that to James Grahams record.

Thats 20 entries for dirty nasty cheating Bailey

29 entries for lovely saintly walk on water Graham.

So, what you're saying is that their strawberry blond overweight prop, is dirtier than Mr Bailey?

Depends really, do the appearances match are the periods of time the same?

Unfortunately I cannot see the reports you have posted due to an over zealous IT department at work!!

I still wonder what James and Chris were upto [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=314here??[/url Ooooh errrr missus

Bailey isnt that unfamiliar with the GB shirt, he has worn it four more times than say, Tommy Martyn

And you have kind of made my point for me, Sculthorpe stood toe to toe with Fitzgibbon, O'Meley, and Farrell, swinging two punches at Ryan Bailey whilst he had his hands by his side and leaving him standing isnt really comparable.

Its not only the Saints board though, Leeds always defend there players no matter how rubbish they are.

When in actually fact there is a 10 page long thread on the Leeds Forum titled "What Does Bailey Offer !". You will find it around 6 or 7 pages in where most of the Leeds fans say he's a load of rubbish. Here on this saints forum we are just confirming the fact.

that is nice of you,

its just a shame he disproves your claim every October

If thats all you,ve got then its a poor effort. Don,t forget he was also almost disciplined by the club a few seasons back by taking off his team shirt and throwing it away in one of his fits of temper.

he was almost disciplined for taking off his shirt?

Crikey, i take it all back, what an absolute bounder.

Every October?

well everytime he has played you in october yes

Glad you cleared that up. Even so the poster (Judder Man) didn't claim anything other than to draw attention to a thread on the Leeds board by Leeds fans questioning what Bailey offers.

think you might want to read that one again fella.

specifically the last 11 words, they will likely point to the claim.

If you also read that particular thread the Leeds fan or fans actually refer to one of the October finals where he actually only lasted 10 mins in that final referring to him as playing rubbish.

Hey, no-one said that Leeds didnt have as many fools as Saints. That thread was like fly paper for them. Like this one for saints fans

As you well know not every offence goes unpunished so stats like that count for little in debates such as this. or to put it another way, Ricky Bibey has two challenge cup winners medals, does that mean he was a bbetter player than all of the leeds players who don't have one?

i'm not sure anyone has claimed JG is an angel, in fact the more sensible posters here will happily admit when someone does something naughty as i'm sure there are Leeds fans who are prepared to do the same, its just a shame some fans refuse to take off their club colours tinted glasses off and act like rugby league fans rather than like childish football fans.