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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Monie didn't turn Jason Robinson around; Jason Robinson turned himself around. I've heard his story. He may have looked up to Monie but the decision to make changes belonged to Jason Robinson. Now if Moore looks up to Brown then maybe he will take any advice given but unless Moore becomes wise to himself, learns from his mistakes and chooses to turn things around for himself, Brown can spend a lifetime giving advice and hugging him and it won't make a jot of difference to Moore's behaviour or attitude.'"
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| Quote ="St pete"Longy never grew up.'"
Is he not grown up now? He's certainly taken on responsibility anyway, what with marriage and children and a proper job. He lives for rugby league. If you've read his book then you'll know just how vital the sport is to him.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i belive monie took him into his own home and asked Inga to mentor him'"
But my point is that Robinson wanted that. He was looking for something and found it. Moore clearly does not want that. He wants his booze and friends and fun. Until or unless Moore himself wants to change, all the hugs in the world won't make a jot of difference.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Monie didn't turn Jason Robinson around; Jason Robinson turned himself around. I've heard his story. He may have looked up to Monie but the decision to make changes belonged to Jason Robinson. Now if Moore looks up to Brown then maybe he will take any advice given but unless Moore becomes wise to himself, learns from his mistakes and chooses to turn things around for himself, Brown can spend a lifetime giving advice and hugging him and it won't make a jot of difference to Moore's behaviour or attitude.'"
Jason Robinson says he owes his life and career to inga, he says inga took him under his wing and showed him how to live his life.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"But my point is that Robinson wanted that. He was looking for something and found it. Moore clearly does not want that. He wants his booze and friends and fun. Until or unless Moore himself wants to change, all the hugs in the world won't make a jot of difference.'"
For a school teacher who works with people as team I thought you more than most would understand that sometimes that little arm on the shoulder, that little pat on the back, that little hug can make all the difference.
Like I said, it's good team management.
No good coach in his right mind would just turn his back on a player without doing all he can to help, if after he's done all he can then fair enough but it's clear brown feels he's got the coaching skills to get the best from Moore.
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| Quote ="St pete"Jason Robinson says he owes his life and career to inga, he says inga took him under his wing and showed him how to live his life.'"
Of course. But it was Jason who wanted that. Inga couldn't have done anything at all to help unless Jason wanted that help.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Of course. But it was Jason who wanted that. Inga couldn't have done anything at all to help unless Jason wanted that help.'"
not many people said no to Inga, he was maoooooooooosive!
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| Quote ="St pete"For a school teacher who works with people as team I thought you more than most would understand that sometimes that little arm on the shoulder, that little pat on the back, that little hug can make all the difference.'"
First of all, I am a primary school teacher. I deal with children aged 11 and under. Secondly, I am not supposed to touch any children. That is against all safeguarding policy. Of course if a child is crying their little hearts out at school then I will give them a hug and screw safeguarding policy because they are in emotional pain and they are little. But by doing that I leave myself open to false accusations.
Scott Moore is not 11 years and under. He's a fully paid up adult. That is an entirely different beast.
I remember being somewhat berated on here when Potter was still in charge and I criticised Potter for openly putting Jamie Foster down in a post match interview. I stated that it was wrong to do that as nobody knew how it would affect Foster to be publically put down. As usual I was jumped on by many people on here. However, I was spot on. And I agree with you that people should always be treated as individuals. It is not the principle I am disagreeing with. I just don't agree that the proposed solution is the correct one in this case.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"First of all, I am a primary school teacher. I deal with children aged 11 and under. Secondly, I am not supposed to touch any children. That is against all safeguarding policy. Of course if a child is crying their little hearts out at school then I will give them a hug and screw safeguarding policy because they are in emotional pain and they are little. But by doing that I leave myself open to false accusations.
Scott Moore is not 11 years and under. He's a fully paid up adult. That is an entirely different beast.
I remember being somewhat berated on here when Potter was still in charge and I criticised Potter for openly putting Jamie Foster down in a post match interview. I stated that it was wrong to do that as nobody knew how it would affect Foster to be publically put down. As usual I was jumped on by many people on here. However, I was spot on. And I agree with you that people should always be treated as individuals. It is not the principle I am disagreeing with. I just don't agree that the proposed solution is the correct one in this case.'"
I don't recall potter putting foster down in a interview but if he did do it in public then that's wrong.
Like I said, a good coach knows who needs a kick up the backside and a player that needs a arm around him.
If thats what it takes to get Moore playing good rugby then so be it. If brown can tame him then I'd be happy to have Moore back at saints. (no way McManus wil tho)
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"but he was never that bad. A jack the lad maybe, but he was far too clever to ever get caught being seriously naughty'"
Did you read his autobiography?
The bike incident?
The blackpool incident?
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The GB tour etc etc
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"but he was never that bad. A jack the lad maybe, but he was far too clever to ever get caught being seriously naughty'"
Longy was/is ten times worse than Moore. Sometimes I wonder how he even made it on the fieid
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"But my point is that Robinson wanted that. He was looking for something and found it. Moore clearly does not want that. He wants his booze and friends and fun. Until or unless Moore himself wants to change, all the hugs in the world won't make a jot of difference.'"
Agreed. Moore needs to want to change, someone may be the instigator of that change (ala Monie or Inga with Robinson), but he needs to want to change.
At the moment he doesn't appear to want to.
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| People complain about Rogues 'trolling' and yet Saddened gets 9 pages out of trolling his own team!
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"People complain about Rogues 'trolling' and yet Saddened gets 9 pages out of trolling his own team!
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I think he has been bitch slapped by Gary Wheeler some time in their past.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"People complain about Rogues 'trolling' and yet Saddened gets 9 pages out of trolling his own team!
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That's because he is actually Brett kenny in disguise. No saints speccie could seriously be as consistently negative about their own team.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"People complain about Rogues 'trolling' and yet Saddened gets 9 pages out of trolling his own team!
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It's because the people love me.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"That's because he is actually Brett kenny in disguise. No saints speccie could seriously be as consistently negative about their own team.'"
Now that right there is a step too far and an insult to my blood and my heritage. Take it back, take it back right now.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Now that right there is a step too far and an insult to my blood and my heritage. Take it back, take it back right now.
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Your cover is blown my good man, pie munching scum sucker. Depart to your hovel over the bump and dOnt darken our doorsteps again grrr
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Now that right there is a step too far and an insult to my blood and my heritage. Take it back, take it back right now.
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Your Bloodline & Heritage is in Warrington
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| I always think of Saddened as everyone else's alterego.
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| Quote ="St pete"Longy was/is ten times worse than Moore. Sometimes I wonder how he even made it on the fieid'"
Agreed. But he was also ten times the player, which makes a big difference.
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| Quote ="Smurf"Agreed. But he was also ten times the player, which makes a big difference.'"
Yes, it means favouritism
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"There is more talent in the Saints squad than at Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="St pete"Yes, it means favouritism'"
Absolutely, I agree. But rightly or wrongly, that's the way it works in the real world. You get more leeway if you are an asset, and that isn't just in sport.
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| Dont you lot worry about Scotty now he is back with Mase every thing will be hunky dorry,they are both catching up with Mases best mate Mickey Rourke soon.
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