People dislike him as he is good, not the best thing sliced bread but a good player. Plays for Wigan, usually people other than Wigan fans love to hate Wigan. Put the two together and it's not surprising.

Peopl calling him a cheat is a bit strong, cheating is like the betting scandal of Long and Gleeson.

There have been plenty of players who have bent the rules, pushed the refs and tried their best to gain a competitive edge. Sinfield is constantly in the Refs ear at Leeds. Long was always trying to push the boundaries of what was acceptable. McGuire was always playing for the penalty. Tomkins does the same, he is not cheating.

When players in the '90s started to thrash around in the tackle (playing for the holding down penalty) were they considered cheats??

I feel Tomkins treatment by fans and the league is a little stupid and some people are getting rather silly about a young player who is good and even stated by opposition fans as being only good, so why the abuse by fans and some players? Crazy, he's not that good.

Nope. It's because he's a cheat. And petulant. And he kicks out in the tackle and goes in with the knees. That kind of thing. There are an awful lot of good players who fans from opposing teams don't dislike. We just dislike Tomkins because he cheats. And plays dirty sometimes.

You need to look closer to home, Foster milks penaltys all the time, as soon as he hits the floor his legs are everywere like a disabled spider.

You hate Sam because he's class, and he plays for Wigan, same reason you hated Andy Farrell. No shame in it, I hated Sean Long because he was class, and he played for Saints.

As per previous comments - there's plenty good player past and present who havent been booed and they've played for Wigan



The only thing those 2 cheated was the bookies (which I find quite amusing as they have insider info all the time) and them selves out of half a season of Rugby and wages - Cheating is taking Steriod's or other drugs to enhance performance (Terry Newton, Gareth Hock ...) or in the case of Tomkins going in with the knee's , clamping arms in the tackle etc etc



You mean Jason Robinson ....

Take off your Cherry and White specs and then watch a re run of the 2 SOO matches so far. Tomkins is a good player with a bad attitude, would he make either of those 2 SOO teams? I dont think so , in fact he'd be lucky to make the country v city team

Cocaine is not a performance enhancing drug, and I very much doubt he was in the changing room toilets hoovering up lines half an hour before kick off, in which case his reactions would have been enhanced. Im not condoning drug taking at all but it isnt performance enhancing.

I think he is a very exciting player, but the moment he tried to end KC's career by tackling him really late hard in the side of his knee as third man (when KC gave a stare that would kill) I lost any respect for the rat.
No need for that what so ever.

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I doubt he took it on match days as a performance enhancer, il edge my bets and say he took it after a game or at weekends just like a frightening amount of young people do these days. it would be quite obvious he was off his face wouldnt it on a match day.

But you claimed it not to be performance enhancing...

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It would be performance enhancing an hour before kick off yes, any other time no, and as I said, I doubt he took it on matchdays.

And I doubt he took it to enhance his rugby skills dont you? People dont tend to take Cocaine to become better athletes.

Now that's not for me to claim...

What im saying is that Gareth Hock was an idiot for risking his career and life taking drugs and was rightly punished, however, I dont believe for one minute he used Cocaine to be a better rugby player, im pretty sure he will have used it for several different reasons , not to become a better athlete though.

That he may well have done, but do you know 100% without a shadow of doubt he never had some before a game? only he knows....

He's done his time (fair do's) so he can now get on with RL, but don't claim it's not enhancing.

Okay. There are plenty things players can take to enhance performance that are well masked. Im pretty sure cocaine would be very low down the list and quite obvious to detect on someone in a dressing room.

My point exactly.

However it wasn't crack he was taking. Still funny though

What's that Gaz?

Sweetener Sam...



Why've you put Wigan on your United flag pal, looks a bit sh*t.

He is class when he plays within the spirit of the game. That's not why people dislike him.

Seems weight of opinion is against you here my friend. If Foster was deemed to be cheating on the same scale as Cheating Sam then he's take the same rap I am sure. Tomkins now has a reputation amongst players, referees and fans alike that's been self-inflicted. Now he's getting found out he doesn't like it and was the first to whince when Meli's borderline tackle that nearly knocked him into next week was questioned.

Live by the sword and you die by the sword Samuel.

He has a choice. Either use the exceptional God given talent he undoubtedly has and become a great player on merit. Or carry on with the cheap shots, third man in, knees in the tackle, wrestling with opponents that he's renowned for and forever be labelled a cheat everywhere outside of Wigan.

Right now he's a cheat. Nobody likes cheats.

I think trying to get a player sin binned after 14 minutes of the game wont endear himself to many fans. IDIOT.

Grix was lying on too long................deserved at least twenty minutes for cheating

Whoa, technically/factually wrong,Gaz hock tested for A NON PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG, it was a recreational drug, get it right if your accusing someone.

Opinion only not clinically or factually proven.

CHEAT!!!!!!!

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