The video everyone is referring to is actually from a Sky documentary filmed in Australia before the World Club Challenge; it was at HT in a game against (I think) NZ Warriors the week before the actual final.

It has nothing to do with the Grand Final.

He did 7 mins more than Flower, which is good.

Nothing to do with the final, but everyone knows what kind of mentality fathead wants his players to have. That clip makes him look like a right plank after what happened last night.

I don't think people are saying it is. Just pointing out the fact that clearly Wane has this attitude in the dressing room and so it's entirely plausible he sent Wigan out there with a 'win at all costs' attitude leading to the Flower incident. In fact he stated that numerous times in the press during the week.

Wane has to take some culpability for what happened, there's video evidence of him in the past telling his players to 'knock people out', 'cause mayhem' and 'be reckless'. Instilling that attitude into your players is negligent and was always going to lead to a incident like yesterdays sooner or later.

Fair enough, was just making it clear for anyone who didn't know.

One of the most bizarre things I have ever seen, ever. Just what was he thinking the utter clown.

Obviously, talk of legal action is way over the top and we have absolutely nothing to gain for pursuing that. The issue, legally anyway, surrounds consent. The current rule is that you consent to what happens in sport generally unless it goes beyond the rules or norms. It is clear that this incident HAS gone beyond the rules and norms, but I'd rather we did not do that.

The RFL must dish out a massive ban. Massive backlash on social media. I'd say a minimum couple of month ban to send the message out.

I agree. What happens on the pitch stays on it. It was bad, he was a idiot, he let Wigan, wane, himself and rugby league down but let's move on now.

It's taking the shine off our win. Let's mine on. We are the champions and Lance is fine.

Not like he has any form at all is it... www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6412322

Not like he has any form at all is it... www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6412322

Just watched the highlights on BBC. They say suspected broken jaw for Lance???

Yip in Roby's testimonial Flower hit Luke Walsh and he thought he'd broke his jaw? Flower is a thug like the Wigun club and should serve a long ban

That's a lie. Hohaia doesn't have any injury thankfully.

Well it's not a lie actually. Just repeating what was said on the BBC commentary.

According to Mose Masoe Lance may have a broken jaw and will go for a scan this week. I hope he takes legal action.

Does the resulting injury have any bearings on the length of the ban?

It does in the NRL but don't think it does in SL.

Thanks Doc. Im sure that Lance won't bother going for the scan this week now you have diagnosed him.

Ban's should not have any bearing based on the length of injury.

It should be by the book

Nathan Browns comments on the BBC. "its not the first time Bens attacked a smaller player". OUCH!

When he was at Crusaders he tried it with Josh Perry who was in his first year with us and ended up spread eagle on the floor. Probably learned from that day that he could only go for the little guys. I also recall him playing for Wales against France(?) and punching someone in the back of the head whilst they were grappling with another Welsh player.

Mounis wasn't it? That well known little halfback.

Doesn't matter how big they are if you punch them in the back of the head.

any truth to the rumour (internet based too, so probably BS) i read somewhere that saints are waiting on the disciplinary panels ruling before deciding to take the issue further?

Quote ="southern_rhino"any truth to the rumour (internet based too, so probably BS) i read somewhere that saints are waiting on the disciplinary panels ruling before deciding to take the issue further?'" No (well to my knowledge). Gm police issued a statement about it, and it sounds very much like the ball is in the polices court - might be a case the police are waiting on the RFL report ... bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/29593523 It'll depend on the results of the scan today(?) too I imagine - rumours vary from no injury to a broken jaw

Quote ="southern_rhino"any truth to the rumour (internet based too, so probably BS) i read somewhere that saints are waiting on the disciplinary panels ruling before deciding to take the issue further?'" No (well to my knowledge). Gm police issued a statement about it, and it sounds very much like the ball is in the polices court - might be a case the police are waiting on the RFL report ... bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/29593523 It'll depend on the results of the scan today(?) too I imagine - rumours vary from no injury to a broken jaw

Even I am getting tired of it now. It's done, he had his moment of madness and the world saw what a coward he was. Wigan's reputation as a bunch of thugs has been further enhanced - theres no need for the Police to get involved and I'd be disappointed if Saints did that.

Hohaia is ok, the players' code of 'what happens on the field stays on the field' has been upheld by the players, the RFL will throw the book at him and everyone needs to lose the hate and hysteria lest we become like that other stupid game and its acolytes.

Move on people.

I agree, I dont think there is any point taking legal action against the player, because he is clearly as thick as mince, and only carrying out what he has been brain washed into doing. The issue lies with Wigan RL, who are sending out their players with the intention of injuring, through foul player, their opponents in a systematically targetted way. Is it a surprise that they are being linked to assaults on Hohaia, Walsh and GoB? No. Sooner or later, legal action will be taken against Wigan, hopefully before someone suffers a far more serious injury. It is only a matter of time before this happens, and at that point, Leneghan will end up in the dock, and so will Wane, at which point the TV coverage of him inciting players to be reckless will come home to roost. At that time, the consequences won't be player bans, they will be mega fines or imprisonments. The case is building, and legal firms are already taking an interest in this.