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| All those names make the hair stand up on the back of my neck, plus rocky tuner, neil fox etc and yes paul round did play for wakefield at one point another astute signing.
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| Paul Round had the makings of a fine player. Big. Athletic. Good hands. Could shift a bit, too.
I was surprised he didn't make a bigger name for himself. Although this was during the period when "fitness work" meant a competition to come up with the most innovative method of avoiding it (such as jumping on the bus during long-distance runs) and "healthy eating" was a trip down to The Mill House with Chris Arkwright and the gang.
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| I think we also signed Brian Briggs from Trinity, a big fast second rower, a real tackling machine.
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| I'm not sure whether "nostalgia" quite fits the bill but I remember that cold, wet and miserable evening in Wakefield when the all-conquering force that was "Andy Northey" made his debut.
As Ellery Hanley would say - "Zilled".
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"I think we also signed Brian Briggs from Trinity, a big fast second rower, a real tackling machine.'"
Did Don Vines go from Oldham to Saints and then Wakefield, or was it Oldham, Wakefield and then Saints? My memories going
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I'm not sure whether "nostalgia" quite fits the bill but I remember that cold, wet and miserable evening in Wakefield when the all-conquering force that was "Andy Northey" made his debut.
As Ellery Hanley would say - "Zilled".
'" Andy "The Chest" Northey?
Apparently there's a whole chapter of Austin Healey's autobiography dedicated to Andy Northey.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Paul Round had the makings of a fine player. Big. Athletic. Good hands. Could shift a bit, too.
I was surprised he didn't make a bigger name for himself. Although this was during the period when "fitness work" meant a competition to come up with the most innovative method of avoiding it (such as jumping on the bus during long-distance runs) and "healthy eating" was a trip down to The Mill House with Chris Arkwright and the gang.'"
Reading this brought memories back for me. I was a very conscientious trainer and really enjoyed it as well, but I hated the long runs. So four of us used to drop off after a mile and go into a pub. We had a half of bitter and played dominoes until we saw the others returning when we joined in again. Happy days.
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| Love these memories and i think wakefield got turner from oldem, still got video tapes of wakefields three cup final games at wembly, the one where rocky turner got a "knock" and was staggering around the pitch with the officials trying to get him off, they did eventually but he still came back on.
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"I think we also signed Brian Briggs from Trinity, a big fast second rower, a real tackling machine.'"
Briggs did most of Dick Huddarts tackling for him. Briggs was an outstanding player.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Did Don Vines go from Oldham to Saints and then Wakefield, or was it Oldham, Wakefield and then Saints? My memories going
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Don Vines (a Welshman) signed for Oldham in 1956 from Newbridge RU Club, he then signed for Trinity and played at Wembley in 1960, he moved to Saints shortly afterwards and made his debut against Wigan on 7th September 1960, his final game for Saints was also against Wigan in the 1961 CCC at Wembley, ( I will let Rogues tell you the result), Don returned to Trinity for the start of the 61/62 Season, he played in just 38 games for Saints, but what a player he was. Don Vines sadly passed away in 1989 at the young age of 57, May he rest in peace.
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| I'm a 66 year old Saints supporter and have been for the past 20-odd years but, back in the 1950's and 1960's, I followed Trinity, home and away, with my mum, dad and younger brother. We were originally from Normanton so I guess I'm also included as one of those "dirty Yorkshire b*stards" which Saints fans frequently chant when the rhinos are at Langtree Park. I'm a proud Yorkshireman and the reason I follow Saints is because my son was born in Lancashire and, when he became old enough to decide for himself, he asked if we could watch Saints. I've seen great players at St Helens but I also remember other greats such as Round, Smith, Skene, Fox, Etty, Poynton, Holliday, Wilkinson, Oakes, Briggs, Vines, Firth and Turner - the Trinity team which won three challenge cups in four years. My wife's dad was also Ron Gelder, the referee for four Challenge Cup finals, including the 1954 replay at Odsal. Trinity had good days and gave my family lots of pleasure and that's what Saints have also done for my son and I. Rugby league is a wonderful game, teams have their ups and downs and I sincerely hope that Trinity regain some of their former glory. Sorry for being boring but I love the game and fans, whichever team they support.
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| PS I was also there when the film "This Sporting Life" was filmed, stood behind the posts at the Doncaster Road end.....great days!
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| Didn't we buy that kid Webster from Normanton years ago? I remember him coming with a huge reputation. He seemed to be going places and then just drifted out of the game.
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| Quote ="Toddy Senior"I'm a 66 year old Saints supporter and have been for the past 20-odd years but, back in the 1950's and 1960's, I followed Trinity, home and away, with my mum, dad and younger brother. We were originally from Normanton so I guess I'm also included as one of those "dirty Yorkshire b*stards" which Saints fans frequently chant when the rhinos are at Langtree Park. I'm a proud Yorkshireman and the reason I follow Saints is because my son was born in Lancashire and, when he became old enough to decide for himself, he asked if we could watch Saints. I've seen great players at St Helens but I also remember other greats such as Round, Smith, Skene, Fox, Etty, Poynton, Holliday, Wilkinson, Oakes, Briggs, Vines, Firth and Turner - the Trinity team which won three challenge cups in four years. My wife's dad was also Ron Gelder, the referee for four Challenge Cup finals, including the 1954 replay at Odsal. Trinity had good days and gave my family lots of pleasure and that's what Saints have also done for my son and I. Rugby league is a wonderful game, teams have their ups and downs and I sincerely hope that Trinity regain some of their former glory. Sorry for being boring but I love the game and fans, whichever team they support.'"
Ron Gelder was one of the best referee's ( if there is such a creature LOL), All refs wore black in those days, Ron was always conspicuous with his rather large white collar.
Didn't Trinity sign one of the most renown sprinters of the day, if my memory serves me right his name was Berwyn? Jones who later signed for Saints, I remember him being interviewed on TV when he signed for Trinity as he was part of a quartet that was going to represent Britain at the Olympic games. Halcyon days
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| To be honest, I never much liked Wakey's ground. It was either cold, wet and miserable. Or nothing went right. Or both.
I remember going when Tea Ropati first came over and it was obvious from the first minute that his leg was gone. The Andy Northey debut game was one of the lowest points I've ever hit watching Saints. It was bad enough being zilled. Worse still - we never even looked like scoring (whilst I was being drowned).
The other thing about Wakey is it seemed to attract the most obnoxious, foul-mouthed and ultra-militant faction of the opposite sex (with the possible exception of Thrum Hall: what a hell-hole that was!). One woman in particular springs to mind who was ever-present each year. I'm talking about the uncovered popular side opposite the seating. By herself she seemed able to completely drown out the rest of the stand. And she was SCATHING. Of EVERYONE.
I'd love to know if she still goes. Probably a local hero.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"To be honest, I never much liked Wakey's ground. It was either cold, wet and miserable. Or nothing went right. Or both.
I remember going when Tea Ropati first came over and it was obvious from the first minute that his leg was gone. The Andy Northey debut game was one of the lowest points I've ever hit watching Saints. It was bad enough being zilled. Worse still - we never even looked like scoring (whilst I was being drowned).
The other thing about Wakey is it seemed to attract the most obnoxious, foul-mouthed and ultra-militant faction of the opposite sex (with the possible exception of Thrum Hall: what a hell-hole that was!). One woman in particular springs to mind who was ever-present each year. I'm talking about the uncovered popular side opposite the seating. By herself she seemed able to completely drown out the rest of the stand. And she was SCATHING. Of EVERYONE.
I'd love to know if she still goes. Probably a local hero.
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I think the one you refer to posts on here under the guise of SAD END
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| Keep em coming guy,s i,m loving it.
Idont know if its the woman you are refering to but there was a stout lady in the 80s i think had a reilly loud voice you could here her all around the ground drowned out the northstanders, but all i recall her shouting was "come on trinity" dont remember any foul language.
I also remember in the 60s one wakey player breaking his leg carnt remember his name but you could hear it crack from the terraces, made me feel sick.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Keep em coming guy,s i,m loving it.
Idont know if its the woman you are refering to but there was a stout lady in the 80s i think had a reilly loud voice you could here her all around the ground drowned out the northstanders, but all i recall her shouting was "come on trinity" dont remember any foul language.'"
Probably her. Or her mate. She was pretty big. And she sure as hell was no looker.
Wakey's ground improved out of site when they put those boxes in at the far end. You could rent one out dirt cheap if you were with a group of lads. And get a cracking view, to boot.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Probably her. Or her mate. She was pretty big. And she sure as hell was no looker.
Wakey's ground improved out of site when they put those boxes in at the far end. You could rent one out dirt cheap if you were with a group of lads. And get a cracking view, to boot.'"
Come to think of it - the Willows was pretty good, too. You used to be able to get a transfer into the seating behind the posts for 50p. The view was incredible.
Swinton's old Station Road ground was another one. Every seat seemed like it was the back row at the Reebok stadium. Shame that place was lost. It was old and needed a lot of work. But I loved Station Road.
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| Quote ="Toddy Senior"PS I was also there when the film "This Sporting Life" was filmed, stood behind the posts at the Doncaster Road end.....great days!'"
I was at the game that day. It was a challenge cup tie v Wigan
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| It was indeed versus Wigan and the crown was over 27,000, believe it or not. I think the final score was 5-0 to Trinity, in which winger Fred Smith scored the try (3 points in those days) and my all-time sporting hero Neil Fox kicked the goal. I further remember that Richard Harris scored his "try" at least three times, to get it right for the cameras, during the half-time interval. My problem is though, whenever I think of Trinity during the 50's and 60's, I think of my dad George (bless him) who was chairman of the Normanton branch of the Trinity supporters club and was the only member of the Neil Fox benefit committee who was absent when the official photograph was taken for the benefit magazine, which I still have a copy of today. My dad introduced me to the game with Trinity and I'm thankful that I could do the same for my son, with Saints.
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| Incidentally, in response to Benidorm John's query, the players name was indeed Berwyn Jones and he was one of Britain's 4x100m Olympic squad, which is why his move to Trinity got such publicity on TV. His first game was against Huddersfield at the old Fartown, under the pseudonym "AN Other" and, the first time he got a bit of room to move, he was lightning quick on the left wing (I was there that day as well!) He eventually played several times for Great Britain, such was his quality.
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| Sorry to report guy,s, been posted on the wakefield forum Derek Turner is ill, awaiting someone to post more info.
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| No Briggs signed for Wakefield from Sts.
Great player.
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| Can't believe nobody's mentioned Jan Prinsloo the South African who along with his fellow countryman Tom Van Vollenhoven were two of the best wingers to play RL, admittedly Saints had the best of him but we had 2 great years out of him.
My worst memory of playing the Saints was in a challenge cup game at Belle Vue, the wind that day was horrific and Alex Murphy kicked us to death in the second half with the wind behind him and we lost 2-0
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