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| Perry is back so early because ihis injury was no where near as bad as first expected from the initial diagnoses.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Go with that halfback combo and were in for another beating.'"
Its a shame, because the rest of the team (save hooker) looks capable - fast backs, big forwards, heavy bench.
The problem will again be steering the ship.
I really hope we get to see Thompson.
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| Quote ="St_Cunningham_no9"Clough/McCarthy-Scarsbrook to miss out.'"
Easiest decision ever, enjoy your weekend off LMS.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Perry is back so early because ihis injury was no where near as bad as first expected from the initial diagnoses.'"
Probably Saints just being too optimistic at the beginning.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Probably Saints just being too optimistic at the beginning.'"
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Probably Saints just being too optimistic at the beginning.'"
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| It'll be interesting to see what sort of shape Perry is in. He usually comes back from injury looking like he's done his rehab at the heart attack grill.
Despite his continually disappointing performances, though, I think it won't do us any harm to have a bit of experience and size back in the pack. Manu in particular should help to bring a bit of variety to our attack.
Win or lose, though, (and I think we'll win this one) it's going to be a botch job while we're turning out half back partnerships like the one we're likely to see.
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| Quote ="Dux"It'll be interesting to see what sort of shape Perry is in. He usually comes back from injury looking like he's done his rehab at the heart attack grill.
Despite his continually disappointing performances, though, I think it won't do us any harm to have a bit of experience and size back in the pack. Manu in particular should help to bring a bit of variety to our attack.
Win or lose, though, (and I think we'll win this one) it's going to be a botch job while we're turning out half back partnerships like the one we're likely to see.'"
Perry has always had (the potential for) decent performances in him when he's actually on the pitch. The only games he really can't seem to handle are the faster paced ones - typically against Wigan or Wire. The Chemics have a pretty heafty pack, so a bit of meat in the middle may well help as you suggest.
I'm hoping we'll be able to beast them up the middle enough that our decision making isn't too much an issue, but I said that about London. The problem is people really fancy their chances agains us at the moment.
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| You saints fans are a bit negative your playing widnes ffs our defence has more holes than swiss chesse you will put 30 on us min.
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| Quote ="jetblack74"You saints fans are a bit negative your playing widnes ffs our defence has more holes than swiss chesse you will put 30 on us min.'"
Doubt Hohaia and Ashe would put 30 on if we were actually playing swiss cheese.
I fear another embarrassment. At least it will only take 15mins to get back home this time.
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| Quote ="jetblack74"You saints fans are a bit negative your playing widnes ffs our defence has more holes than swiss chesse you will put 30 on us min.'"
Have you seen Saints play lately?
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"Have you seen Saints play lately?'"
Have you seen widnes lately?
Where absolute pants against cas and wakey.
And struggled to beat Doncaster at home.
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| Both teams are that bad, we could see a negative scoreline.
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| Perry needs a run out. I don't think Brown will want to run Thompson out too many times in a row. He probably would not have run Percival out so much if it was not for injuries.
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2. Ade Gardner, 3. Jordan Turner, 30. Mark Percival, 21. Tom Makinson,
6. Lance Hohaia, 23. Nathan Ashe,
8. Josh Perry, 36. Stuart Howarth. 16. Paul Clough,
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13. Willie Manu, 19. Josh Jones, 10. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 25. Alex Walmsley, ,
I'd go as big as I could up front for the opening 20. Then bring impact on all over the field. I'd like to see Makinson and Percival partner up as we may be doing that next year.
Wellens may as well play FB, given the shortage of wingers.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Wellens may as well play FB, given the shortage of wingers.'"
No, no, no.
Keep Makinson there and let him develop his game.
Jones can slot in at Centre, Percival on the wing.
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| Waste of Percival on the wing for me.
The boy has talent and so should develop that playing against more experienced centres
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Waste of Percival on the wing for me.
The boy has talent and so should develop that playing against more experienced centres'"
If we were in a better position then he could play centre, but because we are not he has to play where he is needed.
Makinson has started every game at FB since Lomax has been out, there is no point changing that thinking now.
Anyway, Jones was our best player on Saturday playing inside Percival, so it is not such a bad thing.
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| Quote ="Albion"If we were in a better position then he could play centre, but because we are not he has to play where he is needed.
Makinson has started every game at FB since Lomax has been out, there is no point changing that thinking now.
Anyway, Jones was our best player on Saturday playing inside Percival, so it is not such a bad thing.'"
I agree with this completely. I'd much rather sacrifice Percival's talents slightly by playing him on the wing than sacrifice the whole team by putting Wellens back at 1.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Waste of Percival on the wing for me.'"
He and Jones worked well together against London, instrumental in our final try. While it would be great to have Percival in his proper position, I think he's doing ok on the wing at present. Better him than shunting Makinson out of fullback just when (a) he was developing his game, and (b) the team were getting used to his style of play.
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| Both teams playing crap at the moment and Saints should win.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"What I think Brown will go with:
21. Tommy Makinson
2. Ade Gardner
3. Jordan Turner
19. Josh Jones
30. Mark Percival
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23. Nathan Ashe
11. Tony Puletua
36. Stuart Howarth
10. LMS
4. Sia Soliola
14. Anthony Laffranchi
13. Willie Manu
8. Josh Perry
16. Paul Clough
24. Joe Greenwood
25. Alex Walmsley'"
Sadly I suspect he'll find a space for wello to take up.
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| We've got to keep Steamboat Wello out of that full back position, if we don't what little threat we have will be reduced to nothing and we'll be starting sets 10-20 metres further back.
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| No excuses given that squad. No injuries to blame there.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"We've got to keep Steamboat Wello out of that full back position, if we don't what little threat we have will be reduced to nothing and we'll be starting sets 10-20 metres further back.'"
I just worry where he's going to slow play down and generally get in the way next ....
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No excuses given that squad. No injuries to blame there.'"
Other than we have salfords turd 3rd choice hooker and no halfbacks to speak of.. and of course Wello will be playing (somewhere)
Some fine excuses if you ask me
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