Basically the RFL are saying take drugs and you'll be back in under 2 yrs(20mths)

the next one will be just a ban from playing, training is fine apparently

Rommel, Mugwump, Don Brennan.
Only Saints Fan missing and we could have had four queens.

How you can say Hock is being let off is beyond a joke when other examples in RL are well known. KC played for a long time whilst on HCG but got off with it because 'he didnt know what the doctor was giving him' im sure if the RFL hadnt of been paying a chunk of his wages the outcome may of been different. And yeh because we all would let a doctor inject stuff without being sure what it was. Matt Calland was given a suspended sentance for Nandrolone before he retired. Hock tested positive for a recreational drug not enhancing, he never cheated anyone apart from his own club and fans.

has the terry newton issue not taught you anything? You can't leave them out in the cold, we must re-habilitate and re-integrate these players who have lost their way.

otherwise, more of them might end up in a bad way.

Whilst taking drugs in sport is bad, it's not the end of the world and the embrassment alone is often enough to show they wont do it again.

we can't let these people fall into bad ways, we are a better sport than that.

OOOwwww get her,you still getting your kicks from watching the kids.

I'm just guessing here, but I presume it must be a 24 month playing ban, but a 21 month ban from training with "a team". It was stated in the newspaper that a precedent had already been set with an un-named footballer.

If that player had been allowed to train with his team in less than 21 months then I would have expected Hock to apply earlier.

I'd be very interested to see how all these outraged people would react had it been one of our players, I suspect it would have been very differently. The guy still cant play so I don't see how it affects any other team.

Excellent post and spot on

Not true,the WDA consider It a stimulant. Also It Is used to camouflage other drugs that they might be takeing also.
I see a lot of Wigoon fans are remarking how big Hock looks and cant wait to see him In the front row.

Yes. Once the ban has been served.

They haven't 'lost their way', incidentally. They have chosen to take drugs. That is their responsibility.

I completely think that the RFL should support these players centrally, it is a complete conflict of interests to tell the clubs they are not allowed to employ these players but also must support them while banned.
My issue in this case is he was banned for two years from training and playing. The bans could easily be just from playing and not training.
What Hock did was nothing compared to what Newton did, Gaz Hock wasnt cheating, he was just dumb.

Gleeson out, Hock in , no second chance for some.

Gleeson had more than one chance at Wigan. He was dropped last year for "poor discipline"

The Wigan club should be ashamed that they even attempted to get his ban cut short.

possibly, but if there is a precedent, why not? thats how our justice system works.

TBH what does it matter. The ruling does seem to suggest that taking drugs isnt as bad as people make it out to be, however, I have been taking drugs for years now and it hasnt done me any harm whatsoever. <<<

Which at the time you said was for a "laughable" minor breach, did you not?

It was, and it was a minor breach. There may have been others which I haven't heard about, but the last one allegedly was similar to Jordan Tanseys at Hull.

What Gaz Raynor did was far worse that what Hock has done but noone is saying he should still be banned?

Were on about the goons ducking and diveing to get drugy back into training =#FF00BFbefore his ban Is up.
Your point about Raynor playing =#FF4080after he's been released Is irrelevant.

But wasn't Raynor released early from his sentence?
Hock will STILL not be ALLOWED to PLAY before his ban is up (quite rightly)

If the club he now plays for asked for him to be released early you have a point.
If not..

Not sure why people are concerned about Hock, he is a cancer, a disruptive influence, and crap role model for the younger players, much like Newton and Connoly were. Wigan have struggled with the drinking culture for years, and then the odd player with only half a brain cell takes things further. So long as the club gives a home to players like Gleeson and Hock, the culture will persist. Having him aroud the club will do far more damage than good.

a bit harsh, to me hock is just plain dumb. He appears to be the type of person who is easily led by others, but not malicously bad pad person