He definitely is the best hooker in the country, certainly the best English one. A view shared by the majority of fans and probably all the coaches as well. Name one team that he would not get into in this country.

I wouldn't want him as first choice hooker at Leeds. I'd rather we stayed with Buderus.

He wouldn't want to be your any choice hooker.

That's ok, then we're all happy!

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Is it someone who posts on RLFANS?

That was nearly as big a joke as Sculthorpe winning it the second year running.

Best British player of his era, by a country mile. He should have won it 5 on the trot, even the seasons he was injured.

Roby will be my favourite for MOS this year. The best hooker in this country by a mile, and one of the world class players in SL.
He would make it in Australia, as well, no problem. He'd be a massive success proving himself to be one of the worlds best players!!
Thankfully, though he as comitted himself to the Saints for the next few years.

I haven't read all of this thread so this may have been dealt with already. However, if you watch the replay of that try you'll see that although the ball does go forward Lomax carries on running after throwing the pass and is in front of Meli when he catches it so momentum rule applies.

The momentum rule doesn't actually exist. It's the direction it leaves the hands they are supposed to use.

It was a close one but probably slightly forward.

Does no one think it perhaps took a touch from goulding's hand to deflect it forward? I only watched it once but thought it may've.

That's what I thought, the ball also seem to change rotation in flight.

However, my missus disagreed despite us both watching the same replays so it's one of those borderline decisions that people will disagree on. If he did touch it, it was a slight one.

Who cares? We were owed a bit of leniency after that try that never have should been following the drop out that never was.

Hilarious

a) Didn't Wellens need to [iground[/i the ball in play for it to be play on? As per Saint Stevo?

b) You got that leniency when Eastmond's knock-on was punished by a scrum to you.

The ball was on the floor between Wello's right arm and his body. His left arm was in the ingoal area. There should not have been a drop out given. There was, so our forward pass was momentum.

Quality game in my opinion and you capitalised when we were tiring late on. From what I've seen and injuries aside, I wouldn't bet against another Wigan-Saints Grand Final this year.

It certainly wasn't utter crap.
The Goon's defence was awesome for 60 minutes and they took nearly every one of their limited scoring opportunities.
Ultimately, having to make in excess of 100 more tackles than us meant that they tired sooner. Fatigue lead to penalties, which gave us the necessary field position to capitalise on their exhaustion.
Graham, Soliola and Puletua were a real handful throughout. A little more composure in the half backs and we would have won.

It appeared that Eastmond was deliberately tripped immediately following his chip, which lead to him being unbalanced and led to the knock on. Not saying this justifies the knock on being missed but the trip also went unseen by the officials.

According to Stevo, probably the MOST Saints-biased commentator EVER, it wasn't on the floor. I think it could have gone either way, but when someone as biased as he says it isn't and the decision's correct, then it must be so.

Ironically, did you see the reverse of the decision in the Bradford game? I'm SURE a Bradford player was tackled and the ball grounded in the in-goal area, but no drop-out was given at all.




Not having access to a replay, I'll take your word for it.

I think, at the end of the day, both sets of fans are (fairly) happy with the result. Saints fans for salvaging a point after being dominated for 65 minutes, Wigan fans that we didn't lose BOTH points.

With both teams being under full strength, it'll be great to see how a match would pan out when they are back to their best. Both showed what they're capable of when firing well.

To be fair i think the dodgy calls evened themselves out over the game. Wigans downfall in my opinon was their poor execution and discipline in the last 15 or so minutes

I don't care what Stevo says. The camera told a different story.

Exactly. That is usually what happens.


And the fact that we wouldn't give up.

i heard he is packing and carrying will masons bags for him