Kevin Penny,
thats possibly a little harsh.

Be interseting to see how he performs in the next few weeks

I can't believe how quickly people are to jump up and down about how bad Foster seemingly is all of a sudden. Seems to me 90% of the comments about him are about the way he looks or 'seems' as a person with virtually no evidence except for his twittering ('young man in use of twitter shock').

I've questioned whether wing is Foster's best position, but I think if he fills out a bit he may well make a good centre. From what I've seen he looks to have a good rugby brain - and when he's confident he's a damn good kicker.

Ideally Foster will go on to be a great player for Sts. I really hope that. On top of that, I have no problem with him being the face of the game with kids who otherwise may not take any interest in RL. As with Beckham does it really matter if he's not the best player in the world if kids think he is?

I'm not trolling!

Penny has(d) an infinately better attack than foster does now and similiar defensive abilities (at least he coulc catch a sitter)

But it isn't the end for foster. His kicking ability will mean he won't be forced out

But it seems a fair comparison, even the response from the fans.

Jamie did not have his best game for Saints but there is no reason to blame him to such an extent. LMS for example could and should have given away several penalties for high shots in the second half. Child completely missed them as he did with a lot of things.

I have always put dropping off late in a game down to poor conditioning but your conditioning can be tested if you lack physicality. So are we poorly conditioned and that is making us look weak or are we not physical enough and that is tiring us? Either way it is an issue with the team in general rather than one player.

Looking at our front row would be a better place to start. Against Catalan we lost Clough after Lomax game him a hospital pass and hurt his bad neck and shoulder. Clough does turn his back a lot going into the tackle which is a very poor technique and will only get him injured. Puletua disappeared to the bench in the second half so he better have been injured. He is a player that does not play to his limits. Laffranchi is playing OK but looks more like a loose forward than a prop. Which left Louie out on his feet making poor tackles around the head.

All that being said and done I do think that Makinson and Gardner are our best wingers at present but I have had that opinion since before the season started. Jamie just needs to work on the holes in his game.

Most young players have dips in their form in their 2nd or 3rd seasons. They have to adapt their game as things that they do well get picked up on by opposition defences. Some can, and then continue to improve, some can't and disappear.

It's too early to be writing off Foster for me, which some seem to be doing. I'd also be wary of opposition fans coming in and doing him down when they know his replacement will be Gardner...

Racked up 40 points today scoring 5 tries and kicking 10 goals in a 68-0 win over Huddersfield.

That's just what he needed and why I was calling for him to play in u20s for a month or two.

Total balderdash.

Penny had infinatley better attack.

Pennys best year 2008 - 11 tries from 20 appearances
Jamies first year - 7 tries from 11 appearances - then 20 tries last year.

If you compare them in there best years 2008 for penny, 2011 for Foster they play a similar number of games and Foster is better in every facet of the game.


Penny was fast, that's it....


Foster has ability and the record to prove it, was our top try scorer last year. His head seams to have gone defensively but this is something he can fix as he has the ability, where as penny never did, being fast does not mean you get tries and does not make you a good player.

Give Foster a few weeks and then bring him back for a low key game and hopefully all will be right again.

Foster is gash but hes twice the player of Penny or should i say the new Offiah as the deluded Wire lot tried to label him.

Fantastic. That's the kind of reaction most of us will be looking for!

If Foster got "rotated" for his performance last week,Gaskell should go the same way after today's display.

I can't comment on today's game but I do think it's time for him to be "rotated"

Would Foster have kicked the conversion today, that Lomax missed?

Can't say 100% but there would have been a significantly higher chance of him doing so yes. He's kicked from the touchline to win the game for us before.

I would have put good money on Foster nailing that conversion.

Possibly. It was right on the touchline though. However, I don't think he'd have scored the try that Ade scored to set up the conversion anyway.

Bang on, Foster wouldnt have made the line anyway, great effort by Gardner to score it in the corner.

Ahh, OK. I didn't know from where the conversion was being taken from.

I think it was correct move by saints to play foster in the u20s and I'd leave him there for little while to build some confidence up.

Nobody can say if he'd kicked that goal or scored that try by Ade. It's all it's and buts and I'm sure foz will come back stronger.

How come Makinson is not taking any flack? Had that been Foster conceding three tries there would have been mayhem on here.

Because his name isn't Jamie Foster, he hasn't got a flash haircut/car/pair of boots, he hasn't got a bum for a chin, isn't opening his own hair salon with his dog-grooming mum, doesn't tweet and doesn't say 'reem'.

Mind you, Shenny and Makinson were left to defend two on five twice I think? The rest of the team should be taking flak for those tries.

Hang on a minute - didn't he miss three kicks last week?

Nah don't be silly! We win as a team, we lose as individuals who make mistakes that cost us the game, that's how it works isn't it?

Nope. He kicked every one last week. He missed four kicks the week before, and then said he was going to practice his kicking, which he did.