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| Quote ="Dux"I'd describe Lyon as a centre who had a go at playing stand-off.
Long term I'd like to see Wheeler in the 6 shirt, hopefully alongside Eastmond, but as you say the likelihood is that Leon will be around for a few years yet and has made the stand off position his own. So for the time being lets give him an extended run at centre. Presuming Leon stays with us until the age of 31-2, that would leave a vacant stand off shirt when Wheeler is aged around 22-3.'"
Which would be ideal, he would be well used to the team, life in superleague etc before taking over such a pivotal role.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"He's a natural 6 i think, but with leon here i think his best prospects at saints lie at centre, after all Jamie lyon is a stand off who has found centre his best position.'"
Jamie Lyon was always a centre, upuntil he signed for Manly
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Jamie Lyon was always a centre, upuntil he signed for Manly'"
He is a world class centre and a ok stand off.
He played 6 for saints at Warrington in his 1st season and did ok.
I think he put kick up for KC to score the winner in last few secs of the game.
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| Quote ="St pete"He is a world class centre and a ok stand off.
He played 6 for saints at Warrington in his 1st season and did ok.
I think he put kick up for KC to score the winner in last few secs of the game.'"
Lyon is an average stand off at best
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| Quote ="Ski"Lyon is an average stand off at best'"
Surely he can't be that average, he played 6 for Manly last year when they won the NRL, and the Manly fans loved him there.
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| I think it's fair to say that in the last two games Wheeler has been involved in, he's probably been in our top 3 players.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"I think it's fair to say that in the last two games Wheeler has been involved in, he's probably been in our top 3 players.'"
I think thats fair
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| Wheeler has done a good solid job for us in the centre and he's done enough to warrant starting at centre on a weekly basis. He deserves his run in the first team and I trust Potter to get it right on when Wheeler should play and shouldn't in order to build up his belief.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Surely he can't be that average, he played 6 for Manly last year when they won the NRL, and the Manly fans loved him there.'"
He ain't great at stand off. He played centre alot last year also I think.
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Wheeler's obviously doing something right and getting himself noticed, an interesting article in The Times today:
[i"... Although normally a half back, Gary Wheeler, another 19-year-old scoring tries for fun, is regarded as a centre contender after another two-try display in the position in St Helens's Carnegie Challenge Cup runaway fifth-round defeat of Catalans Dragons on Sunday."[/i
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 269137.ece
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Wheeler's obviously doing something right and getting himself noticed, an interesting article in The Times today:
[i"... Although normally a half back, Gary Wheeler, another 19-year-old scoring tries for fun, is regarded as a centre contender after another two-try display in the position in St Helens's Carnegie Challenge Cup runaway fifth-round defeat of Catalans Dragons on Sunday."[/i
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 269137.ece
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Quote ="Tobias"Wheeler's obviously doing something right and getting himself noticed, an interesting article in The Times today:
[i"... Although normally a half back, Gary Wheeler, another 19-year-old scoring tries for fun, is regarded as a centre contender after another two-try display in the position in St Helens's Carnegie Challenge Cup runaway fifth-round defeat of Catalans Dragons on Sunday."[/i
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 269137.ece'"
I hope Tony Smith does play a few youngsters in that game, good experience for them.
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Quote ="Tobias"Wheeler's obviously doing something right and getting himself noticed, an interesting article in The Times today:
[i"... Although normally a half back, Gary Wheeler, another 19-year-old scoring tries for fun, is regarded as a centre contender after another two-try display in the position in St Helens's Carnegie Challenge Cup runaway fifth-round defeat of Catalans Dragons on Sunday."[/i
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 269137.ece'"
I hope Tony Smith does play a few youngsters in that game, good experience for them.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He's far too young for Saints.
When did Wigan go full time or have you gone into hiding?'"
To old? Funny that!
Didn't wigan just pay £100000 for a 29 yr old saints and Warrington reject?
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| Wheeler's already done more at centre than Gleeson has at the Goons. Leave him there for the season me thinks.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Wheeler's already done more at centre than Gleeson has at the Goons. Leave him there for the season me thinks.'"
True. Gleeson was finished the moment we sold him.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Wheeler's already done more at centre than Gleeson has at the Goons. Leave him there for the season me thinks.'"
I hope so, he's looked quite solid at centre and looks a real threat in attack with his footwork.
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| I really like the look of this kid and his footwork is superb! Centre with Meli will do him good cause Meli,for all his failings does have decent defense! Infact I think both wingers are good tacklers & now that Gardner has grown up in SL both make good defensive decisions on when to come in etc...
I like this kid & getting experience for 80mins then bring him inside at 6 when leon needs a rest or because long's out?... yeah i think that will serve the kid well! I do like Matty Smith though & Scott Moore, along with Eastmond so I hope them 4 can be the real super-star generation to come, along with our more established 20 sumthins!
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| Quote ="Tricky Trindall"I really like the look of this kid and his footwork is superb! Centre with Meli will do him good cause Meli,for all his failings does have decent defense! Infact I think both wingers are good tacklers & now that Gardner has grown up in SL both make good defensive decisions on when to come in etc...
I like this kid & getting experience for 80mins then bring him inside at 6 when leon needs a rest or because long's out?... yeah i think that will serve the kid well! I do like Matty Smith though & Scott Moore, along with Eastmond so I hope them 4 can be the real super-star generation to come, along with our more established 20 sumthins!
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Wheeler looks very good in attack and is massive threat near the other teams try line.
My only concern is his pace. He looks slow off the mark.
I might be wrong as I've not seen him play alot but I like like the look of him.
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| Quote ="St pete"Wheeler looks very good in attack and is massive threat near the other teams try line.
My only concern is his pace. He looks slow off the mark.
I might be wrong as I've not seen him play alot but I like like the look of him.
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Looks pretty nippy to me.
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| Solid game from Wheeler today.
Great cool to score the winning try while getting pasted.
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| Should never have let Talau go
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Should never have let Talau go'"
I don't know if you're being sarcy about Talau Sydney?... I belive Talau was one of our best players last year, but was that last season syndrome? Loads of players get an extra spring in their step when they know they're going because they want the fans to have a good memory of them! It worked for Talau. However, look at him at Salford... hasn't played as often as last year. Age possibly? I think Saints did well getting rid, but should've had a replacement lined up, especially when Scully decided that was it! This Soliola though is a player & can't wait for him to arrive next year!
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| Quote ="Tricky Trindall"I don't know if you're being sarcy about Talau Sydney?... I belive Talau was one of our best players last year, but was that last season syndrome? Loads of players get an extra spring in their step when they know they're going because they want the fans to have a good memory of them! It worked for Talau. However, look at him at Salford... hasn't played as often as last year. Age possibly? I think Saints did well getting rid, but should've had a replacement lined up, especially when Scully decided that was it! This Soliola though is a player & can't wait for him to arrive next year!
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Still not sure why we let Talau go to be honest, he proved he still has it look at him at salford now.... mind you, I never understood why we let Meninga go after 1 season, or Mc Cracken, or Lyon after a couple, yet we kept Paul O'Loughlin for 19 yrs when he was all dried up after his 17th yr with us.
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| [url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1815Someone teach him to smile...[/url
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| Quote ="Ski"[url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1815Someone teach him to smile...[/url'"
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| He looks about 12.
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