He seems deceptively strong. His build reminds me of Roby's at his age.

Myler went abit shy in the game as Wigan started to dominate, however when he did have the ball he finds gaps and half gaps that are not even there. He puts in some good kicks but not consistent. He does not organise his team, which I am sure will come with experience, but Sam Tomkins in his first home game against Bradford came straight in shouting at Feka.

Spot on. If we sign Dobson I will be seriously peeved.

There's a similar thing between Smith and Eastmond.

You can see Eastmond has the confidence to organise more senior players what to do, something I don't think I ever saw Smith doing whenever he was in the 1st team.

I think this thread has just taken on a little more realism with the shock news of Longy signing for Hull.

So have we come to a conclusion?

According to McManus, it sounds like we will be using one of the kids next season.

We have a number of very exciting young players who next season will be commanding regular, first-choice, selection and they must be given every opportunity in the long-term interests of the club. St Helens are committed to this policy.

Hopefully Eastmond can have an injury free seaon but if not that would really open the door for someone like Lomax to make their mark.

But they HAVE TO start games SOON - and plenty. We can't afford to deny the kids game time in favour of Long for the entire season and then throw them into the deep end at the start of next. That's suicidal.

Very true Muggers, especially in the big pressure games that we will hopefully be involved in again this season.

Now Longy's future is decided, Kyle should be given more starts at 7 ....... hopefully

I think we should go for Matt Orford

Given that the Long contract mystery is now at an end I think we'll see a big improvement from Kyle. It can't be much fun playing second-fiddle to a legend and this will clear up any insecurities he had about next season.

Look at the development of Arsenal's kids when Henry left.

Didnt hurt Sean Long did it, who was making sparodic appearances when Goulding was scrum half.

err, I hope we win more...

That's different. At the time we weren't even sure what Long's best position was. Don't forget - most people thought he was a stand off (many still do!).

Don't forget the infamous (st craig inspired?) Sean Long to centre about four/five years ago

Do you think he'll start to get more game time at 7??

Agree Longy should now be on the bench and let Kyle or whoever start at Scrum Half

I phucking well hope so.

I agree with this. We can't be without someone next year who has had some real and challenging experience this season. We have to jump in and take the risk on Kyle or whoever.

Nah.

Longy to be the main man, but Kyle to get minutes through a reshuffle when the situation allows, like in the last couple of games.

People forget that his exposure has been limited more by injuries than through Saints' unwillingness to throw him in.

Come the semi final, final (touch wood) and play-offs, would you really rather Kyle was out there in a tight game than Longy?

It would seem sensible to give half back understudies a go now that we know Long is definitely going. However, benching Long just because he is leaving seems a bit knee-jerk. A balance is required. Our being in the cup may mean we have to rest certain key players in July and August.

At the moment you'd be daft not to say Longy. However, due to Long's only recent injury coinciding with Eastmond also being injured, Arnold has had very few chances at 7.

Should today's event mean that Potter throws him in few times against the more modest opposition, be it from the start, or bringing him on for longy to stand at 1st receiver instead of out wide, you may see the lad really start to shine, and come the end of the season, you might think Potter crazy to leave him out.

If Hull have signed Long from us, why don't we sign Thorman from them as a replacement.

The joke wasn't funny the first 30 times.