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| Quote ="dirtbag83"You really think Graham will stay in the UK just because he doesn't want to leave his mates behind? I honestly don't believe that but if it's true he's a bit of a sad act. Refusing to test yourself in the toughtest RL competition on the planet to stay in St. Helens with his pals so he can go and get p*ssed on Westfield Street? Sincerely doubt it'"
How do you know?
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"If that's true he'll have gone down a lot in my estimation and the estimation of many other people. It's not a chance that many English player's get'"
Are you a Wigan, Leeds or Warrington fan by any chance ?
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto":16agcjpbHow do you know?'"
I'm a Wigan fan, not that it matters. I'm talking as a general rugby league fan here. Everything I've said has been based on the assumptions you have made about James Graham turning down all offers from down under because he doesn't want to leave his friends in St. Helens behind. In my opinion as a rugby league that's a pretty poor reason for turning down a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"I'm a Wigan fan '"
Says it all really.
Quote Everything I've said has been based on the assumptions you have made about James Graham turning down all offers from down under because he doesn't want to leave his friends in St. Helens behind. In my opinion as a rugby league that's a pretty poor reason for turning down a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.'"
Why? Because home is important to some people? Because he might just be happy where he is? I'd call that a reason to envy him to be honest.
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| Re graham to Oz, he's a ginge, it just wouldn't work, not enough suntan cream in the world!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Says it all really.
Why? Because home is important to some people? Because he might just be happy where he is? I'd call that a reason to envy him to be honest.'"
That's your opinion. I'd call that a reason to call him a dunce. There are hundreds of players in SL that would jump at the chance to play in the NRL but are simply not good enough. Graham clearly is imo but to reject a move down under simply to stay in St. Helens with his mates is pretty limp reason to turn down a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. This is all conjecture anyway seeing as nobody knows if an offer from Oz is actually on the table.
P.S. I like how you waited until I revealed that I was a Wiganer before you decided to have an argument. It's as if you were in agreement up until that point
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| Maybe, just maybe, he's happy with his lot in life. Maybe he's decided he doesn't feel the need to live up to an internet poster's opinion.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Maybe, just maybe, he's happy with his lot in life. Maybe he's decided he doesn't feel the need to live up to an internet poster's opinion.'"
Maybe he should have a chat with Sam Burgess and ask him if he misses his pals from Bratfud. I'm just saying that if it was me I'd need a far better reason not to play in the NRL than "I'd miss my mates too much". If he decides to stay in St. Helens then fair enough. He would probably live to regret it imo but in the end it's his decision and he'll live with his choice
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Maybe he should have a chat with Sam Burgess and ask him if he misses his pals from Bratfud. I'm just saying that if it was me I'd need a far better reason not to play in the NRL than "I'd miss my mates too much". If he decides to stay in St. Helens then fair enough. He would probably live to regret it imo but in the end it's his decision and he'll live with his choice'"
It's not just about 'friends'. It's about culture, family, friends and being on the other side of the fu*king world and being on less money!
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| nar i carnt see him going, wel at least for not another 3 or so years
what dirtbag is saying is true though, it would test him and it would be a once in a life time opertunity. but home is more important to some people
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| I've no doubt he'll try the NRL out at some point - but for an Aussie club to take him while he's on contract would mean a huge transfer fee. Not sure any of them would have that kind of cash, particularly as he's an overrated, dummy spitting crybaby (c) Leeds Fans
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"That's your opinion. I'd call that a reason to call him a dunce.'"
Pot and kettle spring to mind there.
Quote P.S. I like how you waited until I revealed that I was a Wiganer before you decided to have an argument. It's as if you were in agreement up until that point
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Unlike you, I have a life.
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| Oh dear. Here's me thinking I'd get an intelligent, well-though out response from you SaintsFan. Never mind
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"That's your opinion. I'd call that a reason to call him a dunce. There are hundreds of players in SL that would jump at the chance to play in the NRL but are simply not good enough. Graham clearly is imo but to reject a move down under simply to stay in St. Helens with his mates is pretty limp reason to turn down a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. This is all conjecture anyway seeing as nobody knows if an offer from Oz is actually on the table.
P.S. I like how you waited until I revealed that I was a Wiganer before you decided to have an argument. It's as if you were in agreement up until that point
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Perhaps he is like Leon and thinks Blackpool beach is better than Bondi??
On a totally different level, I played in Australia (QLD) for a season back in 93, yet couldnt wait to get home. Sun, sea, sand, sheila's, v St Helens lifestyle = No comparison! St Helens all the way!
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| Australia = Sharks, Box Jellyfish, Flies, Drought, Saler Crocs, Bush Fires = My idea of Hell.
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Oh dear. Here's me thinking I'd get an intelligent, well-though out response from you SaintsFan. '"
No chance. I reserve those responses for people I think are worth the effort.
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| Quote ="clintrylance"St Helens all the way!'"
It depends which St Helens you are talking about. The one in Tasmania is stunning.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No chance. I reserve those responses for people I think are worth the effort.'"
Charming. I don't know where St. Helens gets it's reputation for breeding ill-mannered half-wits from
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Charming. I don't know where St. Helens gets it's reputation for breeding ill-mannered half-wits from'"
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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"Australia = Sharks, Box Jellyfish, Flies, Drought, Saler Crocs, Bush Fires = My idea of Hell.'"
You can get this lot in the Hotties as well as King Brown Midnight Mollies and Great White cuttlefish!
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"You really think Graham will stay in the UK just because he doesn't want to leave his mates behind? I honestly don't believe that but if it's true he's a bit of a sad act. Refusing to test yourself in the toughtest RL competition on the planet to stay in St. Helens with his pals so he can go and get p*ssed on Westfield Street? Sincerely doubt it'"
A few years back my girlfriend took the oppotunity to do a work placement in Vancouver for two years. She loved the place and the culture and some of the stories she tells do make it sound like a wonderful place. She also was regarded well at work.
However, while she was there, her father came down with a bout of glaucoma (or some similar eye related problem) and spent over a week in hospital completely blind. Her family didn't tell her until he was out and on the mend because they knew she couldn't do anything from the other side of the world.
She know is adamant that she'll never live anywhere that mean if something like that happened then she can't just get in the car and drive to them. (she doesn't live in their pockets, she now lives in Liverpool and they live in Telford)
The thought of not being there should her mum, dad, sister or heaven forbid her young neice need her far outweighs any other issue.
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| Quote ="Saint Rabban"Australia = Sharks, Box Jellyfish, Flies, Drought, Saler Crocs, Bush Fires = My idea of Hell.'"
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| No official news yet. Do you think we'll get an announcement at Friday's game?
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| I dont think so. He as signed for the club, news was broke to the squad last week. However they,ll most likely wait after origin for the announcement.
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