Deluded chum ... not even worth wasting my time on any further. Good luck at Widnes

Accidental biting




Only Wigan can claim that one.

Yes good luck with your next two tough games against the bulls and Hunslet.

The bitterness in this thread is breathtaking.

The bite-ness Friday looked skin breaking

First of all it wasn't a shoulder charge. The camera angle from the contact side clearly shows O'Loughlin's arm round the player. Neither did Silverwood call it as a shoulder charge. He says "I know the player was falling but you still have a duty of care" That's why he put it on report. As for trying to make it out to be anything more than an attempted tackle that he fell into...good God! You lot across that side of the lump are getting soft! Get a grip!

(The second part of the above isn't aimed at you Simon btw...just responding to your 'shoulder charge' claim. The rest is aimed at others on this thread)

From the video I've seen, which is presumably the same one that's going around, it seemed pretty obvious that McIlorum bit Wellens... Tetanus jabs will be needed.

There is no way that anyone can see a bite in that video. Talk about 2+ 2=5!

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I'd certainly saw it's worth the RFL looking into!

Thats very dangerous, mouth wide open biting into the wrist artery.

Freeze frames take it completely out of context as you have to look how the players got into that position.

Watching the clips on you tube I can eye how people come to the conclusion there was a bite. In reality the video doesn't prove anything except Wellens lead with the elbow into MM's face.

It he was bitten as Wellens seems to claim there will be a bite mark on his arm to show the ref which will be in his report and he will be charged. If he didn't here won't be any marks and he won't be charged. We will have to wait until Tuesday to find out.

Wellens use of a pastry arm guard was a dirty trick IMO

Funny how nobody was claiming this as they were posting screenshots of Danny Broughs "obvious" drop goal a few short weeks ago

I was, I said I thought it missed then and I still do now.

The freeze frame clearly shows not just Wellens' arm in McIlorum's mouth, but a clear tension of the muscles in McIlorum's face, making it fairly obvious that he was 'biting down'. What more context do you need? For all of the Wigan fans' post on this board about how Saints fans are blind/biased/blinkered/deluded, you guys really do seem to have trouble accepting this incident.

I can't understand why Wellens would say it if was not true. It's a serious allegation.

Looks very naughty there

let me know if you keep a straight face if somebody forearms you in the face if you ever have the privilege of it happening to you. I don't think he will be banned if anything i reckon both will get warnings, if Micky moved his head towards wellens arm and that incident happened then there would be a clear case.

Role model of thuggery v Role model of sporting professionalism. The best one to judge whether Wellens led with the elbow or arm would be HOCK for Wigan he use to do it around 4 or 5 times a game, week in week out.

model professional? Maybe if he stopped all the whiney temper tantrums he throws at the refs every time saints concede a try.

Judder man guess you didn't support saints when you had nick fozzard.

Every player will have tension in their face whether attacking or defending as they are putting a great deal of effort into playing the game. What is clear is MM didn't move his head towards Wellens in the way Graham did on Slater for example. MM may have taken the opportunity as Wellens put his arm in Micky's face. I don't know. All I said is neither the freeze frames or the video clips are conclusive. You have obviously made your mind up I'll wait for if there is a charge from the disciplinary before I make up mine. If he did he deserves a ban. If he didn't I assume he'll get an apology from you?

Well, of course. Everybody knows that the disciplinary committee are infallible.

The disciplinary will be unable to draw any conclusions based on the video just like any other objective person. What it boils down to is whether Wellens has any evidence to back up his claim. He he does then MM will be charged and deservedly banned. If he doesn't then he won't.

Just watched the incident, and I think he has bitten Wello. It's the kind of behaviour you expect from McIlorum these days unfortunately, hopefully a long ban is on it's way! For the Wigan fans questioning Wellens' professionalism, throwing the odd paddy is hardly comparable to biting another player. Wellens isn't really going to make up that he's been bitten, and the pictures show that he was.

Whilst that is true, I think we all know he bit him. Unfortunately, just like kicking him whilst on the floor at the dw, the cameras won't be conclusive.

Question for the Wigan fans - do they REALLY think someone like Paul Wellens would say a fellow pro bit him if they didn't?