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| Quote ="debaser"So...in your jobs? What would happen? I for one would be sacked were I convicted of assault. I'm sure a lot of you would too.
Why should it be different for him?
But I bet Saints do nothing.'"
Your correct Saints will do nothing and rightly so. As for anyone else getting sacked for this kind of thing it would depend on your line of work.
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| Quote ="debaser"So...in your jobs? What would happen? I for one would be sacked were I convicted of assault. I'm sure a lot of you would too.
Why should it be different for him?
But I bet Saints do nothing.'"
Most employers if you were one of the most pivitol workers in the country at your job and important to the success of the business would keep you on. Money talks.
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| Quote ="BigRedV"Very glad about this. I might feel differently if I was Mrs Reardon or her fella, but I am sure there are worse scrotes that Leon up to worse on a regular basis. Just glad he wasn't 'made an example of'.
Community service seems to be a reasonable punishment. He should have been ordered to do it in the sweaty mankini though.'"
I hope he does it in Bradford, in a bright yellow jacket.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Most employers if you were one of the most pivitol workers in the country at your job and important to the success of the business would keep you on. Money talks.'"
Which is the bottom line isnt it?
Who says British Justce is fair?
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| Quote ="debaser"Which is the bottom line isnt it?
Who says British Justce is fair?'"
Thats nothing to do with Justice, just how an employer would react, which is business not justice.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Your correct Saints will do nothing and rightly so. As for anyone else getting sacked for this kind of thing it would depend on your line of work.'"
So a job where you are a role model in the community? A job where you have an influence over children who might look up to you and aspire to be like you?
A job like that it would be important to have someone without two convictions for assault I would have thought. You disagree?
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| I'd give him a week off and let it be known that we were suspending him for a week.
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| Quote ="debaser"So a job where you are a role model in the community? A job where you have an influence over children who might look up to you and aspire to be like you?
A job like that it would be important to have someone without two convictions for assault I would have thought. You disagree?'"
Look, saints will make a business decision. Leon is a grest earner for us and his actions will not affect that, so he will be retained. Simple. The morals of this are another question, but its how the world works.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Thats nothing to do with Justice, just how an employer would react, which is business not justice.
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So had Pryce not been who he is, with the money he has, and the legal representation he had, he would have got off with the same would he?
No, I don't think so either. Money talks.
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| Quote ="debaser"So had Pryce not been who he is, with the money he has, and the legal representation he had, he would have got off with the same would he?
No, I don't think so either. Money talks.'"
He pushed someone, thats it. Get over it. Never ever was he going to prison for that.
If I were to push someone in the street (not saying i would mind) i might get a caution, thats all, if the rozzers didnt just send me home with a flea in my ear.
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| Quote ="debaser"So had Pryce not been who he is, with the money he has, and the legal representation he had, he would have got off with the same would he?
No, I don't think so either. Money talks.'"
After the witch hunt on Ben Cockayne, on here and other forums as well as the media, I got to thinking that with all these people commenting and with such a wide spectrum of people, chances are some of them have done far worse in their own life, and possibly without punishment.
And as you have guns in your avatar, I'd rather sit in a room with Pryce than you, as long as it wasn't a pub of course.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Look, saints will make a business decision. Leon is a grest earner for us and his actions will not affect that, so he will be retained. Simple. The morals of this are another question, but its how the world works.'"
So St Helens RLFC are morally unsound? Is that what you just said?
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"After the witch hunt on Ben Cockayne, on here and other forums as well as the media, I got to thinking that with all these people commenting and with such a wide spectrum of people, chances are some of them have done far worse in their own life, and possibly without punishment.
And as you have guns in your avatar, I'd rather sit in a room with Pryce than you, as long as it wasn't a pub of course.
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They are not guns, they are gunforks! They are a symbol of peace. Turning guns into tools to create a better world...
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| Quote ="debaser"So St Helens RLFC are morally unsound? Is that what you just said?
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I'd rather be morally unsound than have an unsound business thanks.
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| What makes me laugh about this is that I was blasted for saying what Pryce did wasn't comparable to Feka.
And I was right . . . . . . Feka's was twice as bad according to sentencing
I assume that all the Wiganers saying Saints should have the morals to bad Pryce for a few months will now be asking IL to ban Feka for twice as long as they had in mind.
However, Pryce is lucky and needs to stop acting like a bum. I'm also a little disappointed we don't get to see Wheeler - I hope Saints give Pryce a ban and play Wheeler for a month or so.
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| Quote ="debaser"So St Helens RLFC are morally unsound? Is that what you just said?
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wait to see what happens, but according to statements made by the club in the past:
"We make continued and vigorous attempts to positively differentiate our Club and our sport as a family sport. We expect this image to be portrayed by our players, all staff and our supporters."
"No one person is bigger than St Helens Rugby Football Club."
"The long-term name and reputation of the club is paramount and cannot be sacrificed to accommodate the kind of unacceptable behaviour displayed."
"The club, along with all other Super League clubs, has for some time been working extremely hard to promote St Helens as a family club with family values."
"The club is simply not prepared to tolerate this kind of behaviour from any employee. To do so sends the wrong message to staff, players, fans and in particular young fans."
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| Quote ="debaser"So St Helens RLFC are morally unsound? Is that what you just said?
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=redCut out the personal insults. Carlos.
St Helens RLFC are a business first and foremost. No business on the planet is going to stay at the top of the tree by sacking their best performers because they pushed someone over, it just isn't going to happen. Pryce was a muppet for being there in the first place and had he done something serious, for example a vicious assault, unprovoked against a defenseless person then I suspect action would be taken. Leon Pryce has pleaded guilty to the assault of pushing somebody over who held a bat in an aggressive manner. He has been found guilty of nothing else regardless of the hysteria people like yourself blow out of your backside on here. Indeed, if Pryce was still a Bradford player I suspect you wouldn't be spouting the nonsense that you currently are.
Get over it.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"
Leon Pryce has pleaded guilty to the assault of pushing somebody over who held a bat in an aggressive manner.
Indeed, if Pryce was still a Bradford player I suspect you wouldn't be spouting the nonsense that you currently are.
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If someone had shoulder barged your door down would you not be holding a baseball bat in an aggressive manner?!
I'm pretty sure if Pryce was still a Bradford player would you be calling for him to be sacked too.
Rose tinted spectacles anyone?!?
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"
St Helens RLFC are a business first and foremost. No business on the planet is going to stay at the top of the tree by sacking their best performers because they pushed someone over, it just isn't going to happen. Pryce was a muppet for being there in the first place and had he done something serious, for example a vicious assault, unprovoked against a defenseless person then I suspect action would be taken. Leon Pryce has pleaded guilty to the assault of pushing somebody over who held a bat in an aggressive manner. He has been found guilty of nothing else regardless of the hysteria people like yourself blow out of your backside on here. Indeed, if Pryce was still a Bradford player I suspect you wouldn't be spouting the nonsense that you currently are.
Get over it.'"
Touchy.
I've nothing to get over. I have no issues with the sentence really. It's the attitude of the clubs and the fans thats a bit much. You can excuse anything because he is one of your prize players. That's up to you really.
What nonsense am I spouting? He has been found guilty of assault thats a fact. Twice in fact.
I only see one hysterical person on here. It aint me.
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| Suspending him until he's done the 100 hours of non-paid work.
That'll be 20 hrs a week.
5 weeks suspended.
Seems fair, but Saints won't enforce it.
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| Glad Pryce isn't going down, but this should be his final warning, I hope he's learnt his lesson.
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| Quote ="Mrs Bridge"
If someone had shoulder barged your door down would you not be holding a baseball bat in an aggressive manner?!'"
Clearly some people can't read.
He didn't touch the door. Reardon is the one accused of the door business.
All Pryce did was push the boyfriend, he fell and knocked himself on the peddle bin. Way hay. Obviously, Pryce should be hanged at dawn from the scaff.
All this up their own a$$ self-righteousness on these boards makes me wanna puke. Would love to know just how many of the self-righteous hoards have gone over the speed limit, drunk alcohol or smoked under age, had a splif, dropped litter, let their dogs on the pavement, left their kid alone in the house when under the age of 16, let their kids drink under age or skive off school, in fact, any number of offences for which they could be fined, dished out community service or sent down, depending.
Anyone would think there are a billion squeeky clean individuals out there the way they rant on about one bloke pushing another. Un-fecking-believable.
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| Glad Pryce isn't going down. He certainly shouldn't have, given the relative minor nature of his crime (pushing a bloke).
100 hours unpaid sorting out my back yard in just his shorts should do well, thankyouverymuch!
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"Suspending him until he's done the 100 hours of non-paid work.
That'll be 20 hrs a week.
5 weeks suspended.
Seems fair, but Saints won't enforce it.'"
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they did ban him.
Give him a rest, get Wheeler/Eastmond some game time.
If it were me I'd ban him for a month.
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| What a load of e.
Precidents have been set in the past by clubs like Hull F.C,Leeds,Wigoon.
Why should we be any different.
Dont talk about morals etc, you just want us to bin him so It would harm Saints. Then your club would do their best to sign him the day after we sack him.
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