Seriously? 13 years of age and you are creaming yourself? Pure stupidity.

I have seen players who have been serious stars at academy and reserve level but then been average or worse in super league.

Goulding was one hell of a player when he was younger, I thought he would be Englands future centre, now look at him. Can't even get a game on the wing.

We were ranted at on our board in 2008 when we were having a bad season and people were talking about how good Tomkins was, he was only young then... but he was older than 13.

Personally I think it is not right that young kids names are being mentioned on forums like this.

For a kid to make it at any sport they pretty much have to stay dedicated and keen throughout their teenage years, and if kids read this sort of nonsense they will think they have made it already. It is important that their feet are kept firmly on the ground and threads like this are not going to help !

There is 12 lads from last seasons Blackbrook U14 side that have got scholarships for the 15's including a son of one of our legends!!

Danny Arnold's son?

Keiron Cunningham's.

There's a surprise. The Bold Miners Under 15s side that was just as successful at Under 14s as Brook were got 2 lads in Scholarship. Laughable.

Robbie Hand, Joseph Ryan. Dave Hewitt, Whitley! I make that 4 bold lads. To be fair I know Joseph transfers from Rylands.

I've watched blackbrook a bit and they have some excellent players.

Blackbrook does appear to be Saints' feeder club!

Is he as great as Joe Cole was at 13?

What I mean is Under 15s lads who were selected this time last year. Only DH and MW had one the. JR was at Rylands and RH gained his scholarship recently.

I'm not taking anything away from the Under 14s lads at Brook by the way. I've watched them a few times and are impressive. I just find it funny that 12 have gained a Scholarship, probably rightly so, but the previous year the Bold Miners team only had 2. Perhaps it's just me.

I think last seasons Under 14's have suffered from playing numbers in St.Helens. I'm sure there's only Brook, Clock Face and Portico in St.Helens at that age group. I think of those 3 only Brook had a full squad. Thatto Heath folded early in the season. Plus, there are some St.Helens based players at 'border' teams like Orrell etc. So I guess thats why the scholarships are lobsided in Brook's favour. I'm not sure which other clubs have players selected for scholarships at that age group at the moment. I've heard Orrell have a few and I don't think Clock or Portico have any as yet. Although, I've heard all the places haven't been given yet.

Bold have players on scholarships for alot of teams! 4 are at Wigan, 3 at Warrington, 4 Saints and 2 Widnes are ones I can think off the top of my head!

I think what jts was alluding to was that it seems that you have more of a chance of being given a Saints scholarship if you play for Blackbrook than if you play for Bold.

It used to be the same with St. Pats at Wigan.

To all those connected with Bold, if there are any more Liam Carberrys down there that Saints don't want, just send then to Wigan.

Indeed.

How have the bold lads done for Wigan this year at under15s then?

I only watched the Wigan/Saints game. I personally thought TW at full back was man of the match. It seems they all enjoy it and like the set up.

Who was the Saints fullback in that game, I thought he was their standout player.

Adam Saunders who is a stand out

Yeah Adam Saunders. In the first Crusaders game they played he scored a first half hat trick! One before I even got to the pitch!

which code though?

It still is.

It's a real shame that there is still this fixation with Blackbrook. It seems to be the case that you need to be extra special to get a scholarship if you're at any other club.

There are some decent kids playing for other St Helens clubs in next seasons U 15's that have been overlooked by saints who could end up snapped up by the likes of Wigan, Warrington, Widnes etc. just because they dont play for Brook.

Not like it used to be.
A lot of the lads coming through now have come from IRB, Bold and Orrell St. James, as you will probably read in the next week or so.

If you look at the Saints under15s team from this year there are only 3 lads from Brook. One has been on a while, one recently has been put on and the 3rd has just signed from Clock! I can think of 3 at Brook, 4 Bold, 4 Crossfields, 2 Clock, 3 Orrell, 3 Thatto, 2 Saddleworth, 1 at Widnes St.Maries and one who plays union at Sale.