A triple fractor of the cheek bone and only missed two games. Id see he handled that pretty well. He was willing to play good friday also with it.

I meant that Campese's replacement was performing better that your first choice.

Not done a great deal of help in the league tho as he? You was 2nd bottom for part and struggling to make the top 8.

You are confusing bravery with application. You seemed to be suggesting that his fall off in form was the result of green's foul. Its his form that's being questioned and the reason for it.

We have only won our last four matches of course. Although only three were in the league. I await your comments with bated breath about the quality of the opposition.

I'm implying he's not 100% fit

You said "Up until the Souths game he was very good. His long passes to Percy was worldclass. He also was working well with Vea on those inside balls.
He's been pretty average for past 6 weeks tho and not looked the same since hull KR targeted him."

Where is the implication he's not 100% fit? The injury was to his cheekbone and consequently can only by the broadest stretch of the imagination be thought to have affected his fitness.

I'd find the link to my prediction that Campese would be forever on the treatment table when the trailer park crowd from KR invaded here after their home victory - but they're too insignificant to bother investing time and energy.

We lost vea the week before the Souths game and percy shortly after. He's also been playing with different halves each week and a cheek bone break hasn't helped.

If you won't me to put it simply for you. First half the season he was very very good and kept us ticking over and was putting in top class passes brining our centres into the game which we hadn't seen in long time and was linking up great with Vea.

We've had lots of injuries and not had settled team and he's been injured plus he's not in the best of form, so Id say he's been average for past 6 weeks.

I look at it this way. We won our first 6/7 games and travis played a massive part in that. If you take those performances away and the fact we had no hslves at the time then I don't think we'd be sitting 2nd in the league at the moment.

So insignificant that you bother investing time and energy posting. Cannot you see the irony of your post?

It's no wonder Campese was ALL SMILES when he signed an extension at Hull's lesser-known club.

My guess is he mumbled [i"Suckers!"[/i under his breath once he put pen to paper and limped out of the room.

Of course! That explains it all then. "We've had lots of injuries and not had settled team" could have been written about other teams and indeed HKR throughout the season until the last two weeks. Even when we beat the mighty Saints we had 7/8 players out. We can all trot out these reasons for our team or individuals not playing well. Burns is not the answer on a long term basis as an effective, consistently performing half back. He proved it in the NRL, he blew hot and cold whilst with us and is now doing the same with you. Once or even twice can be bad luck but the same deterioration in form at three clubs? You've only to read the forum to see that other Saint's posters are not too happy with him at the moment.

I can understand your frustration and anger after last night's performance. The need to strike out against anyone within reach must have been too powerful to resist. Of course it's no difference to you being in Wigan's shadow is it?

If by [i"being in Wigan's shadow"[/i you mean The Champions - sure. I'll take the shade over sunburn any day.

Last year yes but compare the two clubs' histories.

LOL. Yes, let's compare the two clubs' histories - with Hull KR's.

I am realistic about where KR are.

Are we talking super league history when the game went fully pro or we talking pre 95/96 when only one or two teams was fully pro?

I don't get it, you ask a question, was burns worth the fee?

Were you expecting a different response, because the answer is simple, yes he was worth the fee.

He's not Tommy Martyn, but then who is???

He's a top notch competitor and has had some marvellous games for Saints. Please don't confuse the odd game on TV were you don't see him take on the line to equate with him being a player that was not worth putting some money out there to buy.

He's had his moments so far in the season, he's also had games were he has not had that touch of class, but classy or average he puts in 100% for the team. I'll take that any day. A player who puts in effort is never going to be put down at a club like Saints. Whether or not he is fast.

Players go through runs of form, at the moment Burns is on a bit of a average run of form. If he starts putting in those passes and cutting up teams in a few weeks, that's not going to make him a superstar, just because of a few good games. You have to see a player in the round and not just from game to game.

Was he worth the money. Damn Yes.

Keiththered is no different to any jilted lover. Bitter, jealous and all shriveled up inside.

Found my spreadsheet from the University of Leeds research papers, from the pre world war one era to present day involving championship, challenge cup and super league.

1 Wigan
2 St Helens
3 Leeds
4 Bradford
5 Warrington
6 Huddersfield
7 Hull
8 Widnes
9 Halifax
10 Hull KR
11 Oldham
12 Castleford
13 Swinton
14 Wakefield
15 Salford

Hull KR could in years to come, go to the dizzy heights of 9th place at the expense of Halifax. Wigan, St Helens and Leeds well ahead of the rest, would probably take about 6 years of Leeds or St Helens winning everything to catch up to Wigan.

Add to that he's new player. Some players take 3 month to fit in and others take 12 month. He's a new halfback playing in a new system at new club with no regular halfback alongside him.

Would he be worth the fee if he wasn't Australian?

I don't get your persistent question about him being a aussie. Was kyle Amor worth the fee we paid?

Yes.

The fee was required as there were halfbacks tied up to long term deals everywhere.

We also wanted Kevin Brown but he was tied down to a huge deal at Widnes. We had no halfbacks and no idea if Walsh would return. If we had a fit Walsh and Lance was a great 6 would we have been in for burns? Probably not, but we where, were we where.

Yes Pete, predicted it 4 years ago.



But in the end we needed a halfback, who else could we have got in August last year????

Please name a half that was off the class required and going for free?