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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Shame the ref bottled the red in the first 5 minutes were we're going to go down wrong decisions by the ref. Oh and the completely wrong offside from dixons drop that led to a try, and the penalty goal that won the match being 20m further down field than it should of been.
But yeah, only two forward passes were wrong in that game.'"
You must be a terrible loser. Firstly the offside from the Dixon drop was a 50/50 decision and secondly it didn't lead to a try. Yes Green could of been sent off there's been many cases of that but there's just as many that don't so again 50/50. Tho I'll readily admit if that goes against us we do probably lose. The penalty was 5m further forward not 15 and with the Lunt NO try I certainly thought hoahia knocked on so we should of got the ball back. We could argue all day about decisions but let's reflect on a decent game that somehow had a grandstand finish and was again a great advertisement for rugby league. Good luck next week
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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"You must be a terrible loser. Firstly the offside from the Dixon drop was a 50/50 decision and secondly it didn't lead to a try. Yes Green could of been sent off there's been many cases of that but there's just as many that don't so again 50/50. Tho I'll readily admit if that goes against us we do probably lose. The penalty was 5m further forward not 15 and with the Lunt NO try I certainly thought hoahia knocked on so we should of got the ball back. We could argue all day about decisions but let's reflect on a decent game that somehow had a grandstand finish and was again a great advertisement for rugby league. Good luck next week'"
Compare the Green incident to Walmsley's or Moons last year. That's not 50/50.
The Lunt no try Hohaia was no where near, I assume you mean Swift, the fact multiple replays couldn't find an angle to show he touched it but because you believe so it must be wrong?
Makinson caught the ball in virtually the same position as the penalty goal that was missed earlier in the half.
We could argue all day but look at the very title of the thread (and the equivalent on the hkr board)! If your gonna call things, I'm gonna call them right back!
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"I think that Rover fans need to be a bit more strategic with their "foooorrrrwwwarrrd" calls. Shouting it every other pass for most of the game didn't do them any favours at the end.
A bit like the boy who cried wolf.
Having said that a lot of Saints fans are no better.'"
WE call a forward when we see a forward. Maybe it's the refs that need to be a little more strategic with the way they officiate the games.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Compare the Green incident to Walmsley's or Moons last year. That's not 50/50.
The Lunt no try Hohaia was no where near, I assume you mean Swift, the fact multiple replays couldn't find an angle to show he touched it but because you believe so it must be wrong?
Makinson caught the ball in virtually the same position as the penalty goal that was missed earlier in the half.
We could argue all day
but look at the very title of the thread (and the equivalent on the hkr board)! If your gonna call things, I'm gonna call them right back!'"
Eddie and Stevo thought it shouldn't been Rovers scrum regarding the Lunt no try.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Eddie and Stevo thought it shouldn't been Rovers scrum regarding the Lunt no try.'"
Thought It should have been Rovers scrum sorry.
Anyway lets move on, you'll still be there or there abouts come the play offs so needn't worry too much.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Thought It should have been Rovers scrum sorry.
Anyway lets move on, you'll still be there or there abouts come the play offs so needn't worry too much.'"
Going down decisions Eddie and Stevo think is a long and dangerous one!
I do agree, now is not the time for long discussions on the matter (that's what off seasons are for!) but there's surely an argument to remove touch judges and allowing constant communication with a video ref ... Of course that requires the rfl actually having vr's as all games
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| I think it's pretty clear Green made contact to Burns head with his shoulder which is 100% a sending off and 3/4 match ban. The ref got it wrong and that's it, we can't keep harping on about it. We've had players who have been lucky not to be sent off in the past. I remember sia against Warrington doing a terrible high shot and he stayed on. Sometimes you don't get the call and I think we had our fair share of calls over the years.
Even with 13 v 13 we should have won that game. We was poor, we lost! We need to stop looking for excuses and move on.
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| It was a clear and undoubtedly premeditated attack to the head because of some of the bitterness over Burns. The guy should take a hefty ban.
However, it had no impact on the game. The lads know they allowed a team playing lower league rugby an embarrassing victory.
It's the Saints way, unfortunately. Forget about it and move on.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"It was a clear and undoubtedly premeditated attack to the head because of some of the bitterness over Burns. The guy should take a hefty ban.
However, it had no impact on the game. The lads know they allowed a team playing lower league rugby an embarrassing victory.
It's the Saints way, unfortunately. Forget about it and move on.'"
We have played lower league rugby the last nine times you have come to the KC lightstream stadium and won 'em all.
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| Quote ="deslawson"We have played lower league rugby the last nine times you have come to the KC lightstream stadium and won 'em all.
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Unfortunately for your lot though is that at the business end of the season, we'll be at the right end of the table and they'll be at the wrong end of the table. One win against Saints will make no difference to your finishing position.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"Unfortunately for your lot though is that at the business end of the season, we'll be at the right end of the table and they'll be at the wrong end of the table. One win against Saints will make no difference to your finishing position.'"
Did you mean make no difference to us finishing high up the league? If you did I might agree with you. If you really meant will make no difference to our finishing position then your statement is silly. It could make the difference between finishing eighth or ninth. You have no way of knowing what effect it will have on our final position especially this early in the season. I suspect you expected an easy win on Friday and there will be many more occasions when results don't go the way you expect. If you continue as you did you will struggle to make the top four but I would hesitate to make that a definitive statement.
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"Upgraded ? Time will tell.
Your more than welcome to judas, given time he'll show you the true meaning of classless.'"
now I know your all smoking something over there. Saints is now and always will be an upgrade from HKR.
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| Quote ="Tavernred"
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| Quote ="Mugwump"It was a clear and undoubtedly premeditated attack to the head because of some of the bitterness over Burns. The guy should take a hefty ban.
However, it had no impact on the game. The lads know they allowed a team playing lower league rugby an embarrassing victory.
It's the Saints way, unfortunately. Forget about it and move on.'"
Well summarized. They have their cup final win now.
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| Quote ="St pete"Phil clarke said hull KR did a Lap of honour after the game
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He also mentioned our long injury list ( I assume he also included retired, released and suspended prop forwards in that list though).
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Did you mean make no difference to us finishing high up the league? If you did I might agree with you. If you really meant will make no difference to our finishing position then your statement is silly. It could make the difference between finishing eighth or ninth. You have no way of knowing what effect it will have on our final position especially this early in the season. I suspect you expected an easy win on Friday and there will be many more occasions when results don't go the way you expect. If you continue as you did you will struggle to make the top four but I would hesitate to make that a definitive statement.'"
I meant that the result will not mean that you will suddenly finish in the top half of the table. All clubs are capable of one shock result, be that a win or a loss.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"I meant that the result will not mean that you will suddenly finish in the top half of the table. All clubs are capable of one shock result, be that a win or a loss.'"
It's only a shock if it is a rarity. You haven't won any sort of game at Hull KR since the cup win in 2008 and haven't won a league game since 2007.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"It's only a shock if it is a rarity. You haven't won any sort of game at Hull KR since the cup win in 2008 and haven't won a league game since 2007.'"
Very true. But you are saying something that everyone knows. The point is we played like crap with no brains at all. Campese was sheer class and controlled the game. Good win for KR. Same old Sh#t for us,
Different day.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"It's only a shock if it is a rarity. You haven't won any sort of game at Hull KR since the cup win in 2008 and haven't won a league game since 2007.'"
It's probably classed as a shock given we are the current champions were unbeaten in the league and your form has been patchy to say the least
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| Quote ="Easty"WE call a forward when we see a forward. Maybe it's the refs that need to be a little more strategic with the way they officiate the games.'"
Even the ones that are two foot back. I appreciate that most of Craven Park doesn't have the best view but a lot of Rovers fans need to get their eyes checked.
Child was a complete clown, couldn't spot a forward pass or a shoulder charge.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"I meant that the result will not mean that you will suddenly finish in the top half of the table. All clubs are capable of one shock result, be that a win or a loss.'"
We have played Leeds, Wigan, Cats and you at home. 3 wins one by 30 points. Not bad when three of the teams are supposed to be "big clubs". The comments and betting odds before the season started reflected the fact we had signed 13 new players. We were seen as a team needing to gel. In addition we had a poor season last year finishing ninth. We should have beaten Leeds but fell away at the end. This was however the first time the team had played together. We played well at Warrington again only falling away in the latter stages. The Wakefield and Widnes matches are best forgotten although in the latter the difference was only four points from two needless penalties.
On the basis of your logic it could be said that our three wins represent three shock results already. However in view of your record in East Hull the win against you was probably the only winning result that was not a shock
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| Quote ="Keiththered"We have played Leeds, Wigan, Cats and you at home. 3 wins one by 30 points. Not bad when three of the teams are supposed to be "big clubs". The comments and betting odds before the season started reflected the fact we had signed 13 new players. We were seen as a team needing to gel. In addition we had a poor season last year finishing ninth. We should have beaten Leeds but fell away at the end. This was however the first time the team had played together. We played well at Warrington again only falling away in the latter stages. The Wakefield and Widnes matches are best forgotten although in the latter the difference was only four points from two needless penalties.
On the basis of your logic it could be said that our three wins represent three shock results already. However in view of your record in East Hull the win against you was probably the only winning result that was not a shock'"
And lost to Widnes away. 9 away wins from 42 game iirc so far this year shows that's home form is an expectation. Don't mistake home form for ability. You can't then choose to ignore the bad performances away from home, because it doesn't suit your argument
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"And lost to Widnes away. 9 away wins from 42 game iirc so far this year shows that's home form is an expectation. Don't mistake home form for ability. You can't then choose to ignore the bad performances away from home, because it doesn't suit your argument'"
I was replying to a post that was trying to explain your defeat by saying "all clubs are capable of one shock result". Our results show that this is not the case. I did mention our four defeats. Why then say "You can't then choose to ignore the bad performances away from home, because it doesn't suit your argument"? Defeats do not always mean a bad performance. Wakey and Widnes were bad performances as I said best forgotten. We have been inconsistent but have only had what could be described as two bad performances. That is only one more than your supporters admit to. The defeats to Wires and Leeds were defeats by better teams but were not bad performances by us.
I can admit when we get beaten by a better team. Looking at your results since we entered Superleague we have beaten you at our ground since 2007. Overall we have been by far the better team on the day even if you have ended the season higher than us. Having beaten you the last nine times we have played in Hull over eight years maybe you play badly because that is how we make you play. It would be a poor team that lets the opposition win so consistently just because they cannot get up for the challenge.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I was replying to a post that was trying to explain your defeat by saying "all clubs are capable of one shock result". Our results show that this is not the case. I did mention our four defeats. Why then say "You can't then choose to ignore the bad performances away from home, because it doesn't suit your argument"? Defeats do not always mean a bad performance. Wakey and Widnes were bad performances as I said best forgotten. We have been inconsistent but have only had what could be described as two bad performances. That is only one more than your supporters admit to. The defeats to Wires and Leeds were defeats by better teams but were not bad performances by us.
I can admit when we get beaten by a better team. Looking at your results since we entered Superleague we have beaten you at our ground since 2007. Overall we have been by far the better team on the day even if you have ended the season higher than us. Having beaten you the last nine times we have played in Hull over eight years maybe you play badly because that is how we make you play. It would be a poor team that lets the opposition win so consistently just because they cannot get up for the challenge.'"
Mate - I'm not sure why you're on here craving validation. Facts are we dominated the game but some shocking performances, a weak ref and injuries cost us the win.
You don't need to agree with that any more than I need to agree that we lost to a good team.
9 times out of 10 a team that dominates the game as we did wins comfortably.
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