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| Quote ="St pete"I agree he's been given a hard time by some saints fans but he's never played really poor but he's also never played like the half people expected.
He always gives 100% and people thought he could just slot in as a play maker but I knew he couldn't play that role.
I think he will he a great addition as utility player off the bench, he's made for that position in this modern game.'"
This or fullback was what he should have been brought in for. I think effort wise he cant really be knocked but I think some of the performances he's churned out at 6 have been terrible at best. Not a massive surprise that he's improved playing alongside a proper 7 though
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| Quote ="The Chief"Would people rather have Travis burns for 2-3 seasons or take a punt trying to prise someone like Ryan Hampshire away from Wigan? Not all three of the youngsters can play 6 at the same time. I suspect least one of those 3 is going to be looking for regular first team action next season.'"
I'd be surprised if the goons would be willing to sell one of their star youngster to us just yet. Of the 3 lads one of them will cover/rotate 9, one will cover/rotate Bowen at 1 and the halves and the other will be the starting 6.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"
Is where were at at the moment signed wise (+burns) - Id imagine: Burns = Laffranchis money, Vea = Soliolas (with change), which leaves Manu completely unreplaced, McDonnell unreplaced and Wheeler unreplaced, who will all be earning a decent sum. If Hohaia goes as well (another big salary if you believe rumours) then thats just more space, with a backup hooker/ another quality second row to pick up.'"
I'd expect lots of change from this, can't see Vea being on anywhere near what Sia is
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"I'd expect lots of change from this, can't see Vea being on anywhere near what Sia is'"
No doubt, but it just further makes the point I was trying to make, SC is not an issue at the moment, yet were losing a lot of fluff from the squad and not much that needs replacing, which means the money can be spent bringing in quality players where we need most (like Burns.)
On a slightly different note, is it just me, or does the outline of Bradford's next signing on twitter look like Paul clough?
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| Saints have made an 80k bid for Burns and Rovers are 'listening', apparently.
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| @GaryCarter_1979: St Helens have made a cash bid - worth about £80,000 - for Hull KR's Travis Burns. Rovers are considering it.
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| I think this journalist needs to catch up with this forum. He's way behind
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| Quote ="another fine mess"@GaryCarter_1979: St Helens have made a cash bid - worth about £80,000 - for Hull KR's Travis Burns. Rovers are considering it.'"
The tweet further down from Mascarandy ( Saints Media Manager ) would suggest otherwise.
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| I wonder why season ticket renewal has not come up yet from Saints ?
An extra £10 from everyone could see this transfer fee a probability?
QUESTION:
Would you be willing to pay more for some decent signings
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| Quote ="Rommel"I wonder why season ticket renewal has not come up yet from Saints yet?
An extra £10 from everyone could see this transfer fee a probability?'"
Or the fact we were already projected to break even, and then sky gave everyone an extra 500k probably helps...
That said, I dont understand why clubs dont offer an optional extra when buying season tickets for a transfer fund - a tenner extra, with an extra ticket in the back which acts as a tenner off the next season ticket if you werent happy with any signings the club made. Club builds a small fund for "extra" signings, fans feel they actively contributed to the team - win win.
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| He'd be a good signing if it comes off.
Who'd be replacing Soliola. Manu and Lanffranchi?
Vea has signed so are there any forwards likely to join your club?
Perhaps Burns signing and living in the St Helans area would persuade Walsh to stay.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"He'd be a good signing if it comes off.
Who'd be replacing Soliola. Manu and Lanffranchi?
Vea has signed so are there any forwards likely to join your club?
Perhaps Burns signing and living in the St Helans area would persuade Walsh to stay.'"
I think the club mentioned something along the lines of us having enough young forwards as replacements.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"He'd be a good signing if it comes off.
Who'd be replacing Soliola. Manu and Lanffranchi?
Vea has signed so are there any forwards likely to join your club?
Perhaps Burns signing and living in the St Helans area would persuade Walsh to stay.'"
Laffranchi (confirmed): Unlikely to be replaced like for like, we have 7 props on contract next year anyway with the way Richards and Thompson have stepped up. Most, if not all of his money will go to covering Burns wage (assuming rumours to be the case.)
Manu (unconfirmed): not yet confirmed to be going, but assuming he goes I assume his replacement will be Vea. Hes supposedly on a big wage though, and Vea probably wont though. I'd hope the rest of the money will go to tying up the rest of the youngsters (Jones, Charnock, Savelio etc) and another depth signing in the back row.
Soliola (confirmed): is replaced by Vea if Manu stays, else is completely unreplaced at the moment, and we should have enough cap space from him and others to bring some more quality in. Currently our back row options are somewhat limited, even assuming one of lms or Thompson drop back into lock. Hopefully Greenwood will continue his development and make a grab for a first team shirt, we should see Savelio in the back row next year imo a couple of times, but or senior options are Wilkin and Flanaghan - both of which dont carry much running threat.
Others rumoured to be leaving (and currently be included in our 25 man cap) include: Hohaia, Flanaghan, Wheeler and McDonnell
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| Quote ="Father Ted"He'd be a good signing if it comes off.
Who'd be replacing Soliola. Manu and Lanffranchi?
Vea has signed so are there any forwards likely to join your club?
Perhaps Burns signing and living in the St Helans area would persuade Walsh to stay.'"
Soliola is hard to replace and Vea covers his position (prob less money) but unlikely to be as good?
Manu in my opinion has never lived up to his playing days at Hull a solid pro but for me won't be missed
Laffranchi we have cover for and although sad to see him go his time was up i'm affraid
I'm hoping if we get Travis that another forward could be signed as i'm sure we'll have cap room
Wheeler prob going as well no one will miss him?
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| Quote ="Rommel"Wheeler prob going as well no one will miss him?'"
Brown said recently Hewitt looks like he could step up next year to cover potentially, and along with hohaia gives us a second choice halfback pairing without having to resort to Wilkin
Hes also on a decent amount if you believe the rumours on t'other forum...
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| I'm really starting to feel sorry for Vea now. The poor bloke is getting crucified on here and he hasn't even pulled on the shirt yet. Wait until he plays before you call him rubbish.
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| Vea will go well. In terms of tackle busts. In a terrible team he is doing better than all our second rowers if I recall correctly.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Vea will go well. In terms of tackle busts. In a terrible team he is doing better than all our second rowers if I recall correctly.'"
Not quite, keeping pace I would say, comfortably, probably not outstripping them though.
Of course, the affects the team around him has is anyones guess
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| Have a watch of the Saints v London game from this season. Vea was one of the best forwards on the pitch. He will be a great addition to the team.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"I really like Lance. He's been unfairly slaughtered by a section of Saints fans. We could do with him on the pitch for us now, we're missing him terribly.'"
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| Costing an is getting stuck into the pies tonight.
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| As is Ade - POW!
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| They keep mentioning the Wigan link with Burns! No smoke without fire as Eddie says. Hope we get him would hate to see him choose wigan!!!
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| Quote ="Carlvegas7"They keep mentioning the Wigan link with Burns! No smoke without fire as Eddie says. Hope we get him would hate to see him choose wigan!!!'"
Sky are about as reliable at rumours as they are about commentary. In short, not.
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