They are clearly doing that. But then I'm not convinced that Saints/McManus are particularly concerned with maximising fans' match day experience really. I rather think we are all supposed to be doffing our caps and humbly giving thanks regardless.

Has your account been hacked ? This isn't the saintsfan I know and love



You've slowly but surely come around to my way of thinking.

So there's a few of you coming around to the mr Teflon idea?

Yea he's been crap for Saints.

McManus has been the best thing to happen to saints in a long time. Without him we wouldn't have a club.

However, the running of the club at times is shocking.

Exactly. He's been fantastic for us, leading us into a far more positive future than we could have dreamed about just a few years ago.

But he's not a super hero, whoever is assembling the squad is making a massive mess of it and there are still plenty of things they need to improve on as a club.

You would have thought saints would have learned lessons from the past but still making the same mistakes.

Like I said 12 month ago, we will be deep in debt in 3/4 years.

Funny how there aren't any pictures to put in the cladding edition yet ...

Well if the work hasn't started there wouldn't be, would there!

With respect, I think that's the point that SaintsFan was making.

We really need a sarcasm font.

I don't think Saintsfan has the mental capacity for sarcasm. She likes moaning, therefore I will take everything she says as a moan.

thats amazing!

That would be helpful, thinking of those others on the board who aren't bright enough to spot sarcasm when it slaps them in the face.

I refer the poster to my earlier answer!!!!

I went to the Liverpool vs Milan match on Tues night. Saw a couple of cherry pickers at the back of the ground. Where you walk at the side of tesco and turn left into the car park. I doubt they will have anything to do with adding cladding so close to the start of the season....

Quote ="theblondebomber"Cladding update!!!! www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2534 SINCE the end of the one-year contractual defects period, which expired on October 24, St.Helens R.F.C. have been able to review in detail the requirements for added protection from the elements both within the seated and standing areas of the stadium, as well as the public concourse. Discussions are taking place with the developer, main contractor and structural engineers and a number of options are currently being assessed. The Club expects a detailed report to be received before Christmas for analysis and will then decide on the optimum method and timing.We are committed to doing all that is practical, and in as speedy a timeframe as is possible, to ensure that necessary additions and improvements are made and the Club is working closely with all relevant professional parties in that regard. It is a complex and demanding area from a structural engineering viewpoint, given the design of the stadium, and the correct long-term option needs to be decided and adopted only after the most detailed consideration. It is imperative that the right option is adopted given the potential costs involved and it is also critical that any additions do not detract from the unique design of Langtree Park. A further announcement will be made early in the New Year.From www.saintsrlfc.com'" Erm...how early in the New Year?

Quote ="theblondebomber"Cladding update!!!! www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2534 SINCE the end of the one-year contractual defects period, which expired on October 24, St.Helens R.F.C. have been able to review in detail the requirements for added protection from the elements both within the seated and standing areas of the stadium, as well as the public concourse. Discussions are taking place with the developer, main contractor and structural engineers and a number of options are currently being assessed. The Club expects a detailed report to be received before Christmas for analysis and will then decide on the optimum method and timing.We are committed to doing all that is practical, and in as speedy a timeframe as is possible, to ensure that necessary additions and improvements are made and the Club is working closely with all relevant professional parties in that regard. It is a complex and demanding area from a structural engineering viewpoint, given the design of the stadium, and the correct long-term option needs to be decided and adopted only after the most detailed consideration. It is imperative that the right option is adopted given the potential costs involved and it is also critical that any additions do not detract from the unique design of Langtree Park. A further announcement will be made early in the New Year.From www.saintsrlfc.com'" Erm...how early in the New Year?

Until everybody hopefully forgets about it in the New Year?

Like I've said, it won't get done.

No more updates? Thought not!!

Without reading too much into the silence, I will now do the opposite and theorise that if the cash flow and profits of the business were ahead of those planned then we would already see some plans published about when and where etc. This obviously leads to the conclusion that perhaps it hasn't been as easy as they thought to turn the business round into a profit.

Having said that, I was told at the match on friday by a bloke who says he is in "the know" (nudge nudge wink wink), that the matter is still with consulting engineers as there is real doubt that the weight of any cladding plus the roof would be too much for the structural beams and that ongoing litigation was under way against the design company.

The word I got from Friday was that the money was now in place for cladding, but still no date set for the work to be done.

Although the North Stand is now sponsored so that maybe were a small percentage of the cash has been stumped up.

If the roof design cannot accept full cladding as some have said, how is it the South stand roof design is the same and is clad to the very top. I would have thought a cladded circular design would be more wind resistant than leaving huge gaps where the wind can lift the roof.

I'm not sure it's the roof that's the issue but the structure holding the roof. I'm sure the builders on here could give a more technical explanation. But I'm sure it's possible that they spent more on the South stand structure to hold the forces in place on that side.

If the supports on the rest of the stadium where cheaper for as they where estimated as having to take less force. ie only the roof and not the cladding, this may explain why the south can and the north can't take the same forces.

I only have a basic understanding though, there plenty more qualified on here as they spotted stuff like the type of cement being used as soon as they walked in the place.

Every time I see a post on this thread, which is not as often as it used to be I think the work may have started!

I can't understand the problem as the same builders have been involved with several similar projects and they are closed in or have have cladding??