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| if you argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Shenton is injured and so the senior player in the position Wheeler has been filling (centre) won't be playing.
Rush therefore has a few options: play Wheeler in one centre spot and Jones in the other. Move Meli to centre and Jones in the other berth. Move a current regular into the centre spot. Bring in a new player entirely. Whatever the result, we have another bite at the cherry next week so it doesn't matter.
Given that Meli hasn't played in the centres since Rush took over I don't think he will start now. So that probably knocks that option out of the window.
That leaves three other options which may or may not involve Wheeler.'"
Wheeler is 100% starting centre tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"Wheeler is 100% starting centre tomorrow.'"
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"if you argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'"
You really need to stop talking to yourself Simon.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You really need to stop talking to yourself Simon.'"
but i make more sense than everyone else
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| Oh I really can't be bothered anymore.
You're right, you're always right and you always will be right. You're never wrong and anything you say is indisputable. I'm sorry for even having a differing viewpoint from you, the almighty font of all knowledge.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"but i make more sense than everyone else
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| Wello
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| More importantly do you think that the above team will beat warrington ? and are there any players due back from injury if we meet again ?
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| Quote ="Dezzie_D_Wireledgend"More importantly do you think that the above team will beat warrington ? and are there any players due back from injury if we meet again ?'"
No and yes.
Any logical analysis says Warrington will win all things being equal and I wouldn't care too much if we lost so long as it's not too heavy. The really interesting game will be back at your gaff in 2 weeks' time though and the pressure and expectation on your lot could make for a very different outcome...
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"Wheeler is 100% starting centre tomorrow.'"
I've heard he picked up a knock in the captains run and will have a late fitness test. If he fails it's Meli to Centre and Gardner back in on the Wing.
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| Quote ="TheVee"I've heard he picked up a knock in the captains run and will have a late fitness test. If he fails it's Meli to Centre and Gardner back in on the Wing.'"
Not sure on that but he's been picked in the original team on Thursday
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| Quote ="TheVee"I've heard he picked up a knock in the captains run and will have a late fitness test. If he fails it's Meli to Centre and Gardner back in on the Wing.'"
Tipped over his ego in Bocboc and damaged his backbone.
Is rated as 50/50 at best.
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| Lots of arguing in here for a change.
The consensus seems to be that Josh Jones, a natural centre, has played better at centre this season than Gary Wheeler, a natural stand off. The big surprise here is what exactly?
Jones has been great this season and one of the few bright points for a lot of folks, but Wheeler should be playing in the halves and not put in the centre where he sees no ball and has to defend against people naturally bigger than him. Just an opinion though.
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| I think Melvin Udall (aka Jack Nicholas) describes the above arguement best, when he is describing how he writes women, in as good as it gets.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I think Melvin Udall (aka Jack Nicholas) describes the above arguement best, when he is describing how he writes women, in as good as it gets.'"
"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability".
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I think Melvin Udall (aka Jack Nicholas) describes the above arguement best, when he is describing how he writes women, in as good as it gets.'"
Hmm. Sexism. Isn't that against the AUP?
Bit Sun reader stylee at best. And that's an insult.
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| Quote ="Stevo31"Lots of arguing in here for a change.
The consensus seems to be that Josh Jones, a natural centre, has played better at centre this season than Gary Wheeler, a natural stand off. The big surprise here is what exactly?
Jones has been great this season and one of the few bright points for a lot of folks, but Wheeler should be playing in the halves and not put in the centre where he sees no ball and has to defend against people naturally bigger than him. Just an opinion though.
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Wheeler has been playing centre in the first team for 2 years plus, he should be outperforming a debutant
in the position. How long did it take scrum half Wellens to become comfortable at FB?
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| Wheeler has had too much disruption due to injury. Happens to potential young stars. Cruel, but I can see him somewhere like Salford or Wakefield in a season or two unless Brown gives him a run at SO next season.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Wheeler has been playing centre in the first team for 2 years plus, he should be outperforming a debutant
in the position. How long did it take scrum half Wellens to become comfortable at FB?'"
Respectfully disagree - I think you're either cut out to play at a different position or you're not. For me Wheeler's best games for saints have been at SO (he played well against Leeds at home at centre this year but the whole team played well that day), he clearly struggles defending at centre and with the lack of ball he gets there.
Our obsession with putting square pegs in round holes isn't doing our youngsters any favours in my opinion.
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| Wheeler is a natural #6 but still has the all tools to be a top quality centre - he has disappointed there more times than he's looked good this season and that shouldn't be the case.
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| Quote ="Northampton_Saint"Wheeler is a natural #6 but still has the all tools to be a top quality centre - he has disappointed there more times than he's looked good this season and that shouldn't be the case.'"
Played well tonight though.
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| Quote ="Stevo31"Played well tonight though.
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He did OK - all credit to him. I'm hoping he gets a good run at #6 next season and that he [ifinally[/i starts delivering on his potential...
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| Wheeler looked a bit more like the Wheeler from the start of the season tonight and I'm glad for him. He executed some great tackles, showed his class footwork and but for a slip could have had a try for himself.
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