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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You just want to have a go at him for no good reason, as do many on here, and frankly it's pathetic.'"
Where have I had a go at him - during no post have I suggested that he shouldn't play first team, during no post have I said anything negative.
All I have said is that he needs to decide what he wants to do. The lad has a talent, he obviously is not showing enough to warrant a go in the first team at the moment. Please explain to me what I have said is pathetic?
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| I do find it amusing that we can tip so far to the ends of the scales either in favour or against Foster.
I can see why he is not being picked as the current incumbants are holding down their own shirts, I am well aware of the history with Meli and I am well aware of the clangers he can make at key moments. But I am also well aware that week in week out he has the attributes that can cause problems for defenses and that is not something Jamie brings to the party.
Jones and swift are good examples as they show that the coaches are willing to try people. I still think Foster will play for the Saints first team again, but whether he willl get another contract, well that's just down to sporting competition.
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| Foster offers so little it's scary.
People can slag Meli off all they want, a lot of it is accurate and justified, but he's only as disaster-prone as Foster, while actually offering something with the ball (which Foster doesn't. Ever.)
I'm glad he's looking after his future away from Rugby League because I think that's most probably where it lies.
And that's a post based purely on his rugby abilities because I don't buy into the 'arrogant idiot' claims (nor do I think they're relevant.)
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| Jamie foster has options to sign for other clubs but really wants to stay. He's been advised by his agent to sit tight for next year and see where he stands with Nathan Brown.
IMO its going to be touch to turn down what's on the table but he does want to stay at saint.
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| Quote ="St pete"Jamie foster has options to sign for other clubs but really wants to stay. He's been advised by his agent to sit tight for next year and see where he stands with Nathan Brown.
IMO its going to be touch to turn down what's on the table but he does want to stay at saint.'"
If I was his agent I would advise him to take a dead certainty rather than hold any loyalty to the club. If he waits till Nathan Brown but then does not get picked for a year his value will drop. He needs to do what is best for him and it's not like the Eastmond situation where he will have left the club hanging for a 2 year period whilst he messed us about.
I don't buy the big ego thing and I still think he could be a SL player, a new start maybe the best thing for him. Better for him to go elsewhere and get some decent cash and leave us wishing we had done better by him, than to let his value fall in the reserves and end up with fewer options and no way back at Saints.
He's a pro sportman and his professionalism needs to take a front seat, he would always be welcome back in 3 years if he was in high demand.
I have nothing personal against him and I think he is better than the absolute tosh that gets thrown at him, but at the moment he does not have the quality to get into the team and next year he may still be 3rd to a triangle of Ade, Makinson and Swift. Not really the place he wants to be in.
ps assuming it's an offer from a SL club.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"If I was his agent I would advise him to take a dead certainty rather than hold any loyalty to the club. If he waits till Nathan Brown but then does not get picked for a year his value will drop. He needs to do what is best for him and it's not like the Eastmond situation where he will have left the club hanging for a 2 year period whilst he messed us about.
I don't buy the big ego thing and I still think he could be a SL player, a new start maybe the best thing for him. Better for him to go elsewhere and get some decent cash and leave us wishing we had done better by him, than to let his value fall in the reserves and end up with fewer options and no way back at Saints.
He's a pro sportman and his professionalism needs to take a front seat, he would always be welcome back in 3 years if he was in high demand.
I have nothing personal against him and I think he is better than the absolute tosh that gets thrown at him, but at the moment he does not have the quality to get into the team and next year he may still be 3rd to a triangle of Ade, Makinson and Swift. Not really the place he wants to be in.
ps assuming it's an offer from a SL club.'"
His agent has advised him to stay for time being.
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| Jamie Foster has talent that there is no question. I would seriously drop Francis Meli into the Reserves and put Foster on the left wing.....
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"Jamie Foster has talent that there is no question. I would seriously drop Francis Meli into the Reserves and put Foster on the left wing.....'"
What's Meli done wrong to justify that?
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| Pete, do you think Foster will get game time under Brown?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Pete, do you think Foster will get game time under Brown?'"
No I don't.
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| Foster was a pretty simply kettle of fish.
He could kick goals from all over, which is a great asset for the team. Whilst he didn't offer anything remarkable with the ball he was solid. Last year he showed on many occasions the abilty to be solid under kicks and he'd finish most trys in the corner if there was space.
So we got a 90% goal kicker who wouldn't let you down by fluffing chances or making mistakes.
Then he started making mistakes. Atrocious ones. Until he can rectify that, he won't warrant a place in front of someone like Mlei who may also make mistakes, but can offer a lot with ball in hand to compensate - At least not while we have other players that can kick goals.
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| If I was Jamie foster, I'd jump at the offers.
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| Quote ="St pete"What's Meli done wrong to justify that?'"
Complete inability to defend costing numerous games and big games like Grand Finals?????
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"Complete inability to defend costing numerous games and big games like Grand Finals?????'"
What mistakes is he making at this current time? He can't be making many, we've won something like 9 of our last 11 league games with only two defeats to Wigan.
Let's be honest, Jamie foster has cost us about 6 points this year with his problems in defence and under the high ball.
We can't drop a player now because he lost us two grand finals 3yrs ago!
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| Quote ="St pete"What mistakes is he making at this current time? '"
The same ones he has always made. That he isn't more of a disaster is often down to Wello covering his back on the tryline.
Quote We can't drop a player now because he lost us two grand finals 3yrs ago!'"
I take it you weren't at the 2011 Grand Final then? He cost us two tries in that one alone, and we were in a winning position at the time too.
I can't wait to see the back of him.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The same ones he has always made. That he isn't more of a disaster is often down to Wello covering his back on the tryline.
I take it you weren't at the 2011 Grand Final then? He cost us two tries in that one alone, and we were in a winning position at the time too.
I can't wait to see the back of him.'"
I'm not a Meli fan but he's certainly better than foster. They both make mistakes but Meli offers more with the ball.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm not a Meli fan but he's certainly better than foster. They both make mistakes but Meli offers more with the ball.'"
I disagree. Or at least I disagree based upon the majority of Foster's performances and the majority of Meli's performances over the last 18 months.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I disagree. Or at least I disagree based upon the majority of Foster's performances and the majority of Meli's performances over the last 18 months.'"
It don't matter about 18 month ago, that's history now, it's about the here and now.
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| Quote ="St pete"It don't matter about 18 month ago, that's history now, it's about the here and now.'"
And he is still as bad as 18 months after!!!
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"And he is still as bad as 18 months before!!!'"
It doesn't say much for Jamie foster then does it
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| Quote ="St pete"It doesn't say much for Jamie foster then does it
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I just feel Jamie Foster is more reliable in defence, can also score tries like Meli and kick goals......
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| Quote ="St pete"It don't matter about 18 month ago, that's history now, it's about the here and now.'"
Yeah, right.
Quote It doesn't say much for Jamie foster then does it
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Do you judge Gaskell in the same way or Dixon? After all, both of them have been dropped too. For Hohaia and Flannery.
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"I just feel Jamie Foster is more reliable in defence, can also score tries like Meli and kick goals......'"
He certainly can kick better than Meli but not so sure about the rest.
I'll leave it at that, we just going round in circles and getting bored now.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yeah, right.
Do you judge Gaskell in the same way or Dixon? After all, both of them have been dropped too. For Hohaia and Flannery.'"
I think you know my opinion on lance hohaia.
Dixon wasn't dropped for flannery, Dixon covered flannery while he was Ill, then Dixon covered flanaghan (I think) the following week.
Dixon was never ever going to be in the starting 17 this year unless we got injuries.
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| Meli has been mostly great for 3 entire seasons in most areas of the game with only a disastrous grand final 3 seasons ago and a few odd howlers since to badly blot his copybook. Foster had a solid first year in the team, followed by a steady decline over his second season to the point of becoming little more than a (vaguely) mobile turnstile this season. To compare the qualities of the 2 players is just frankly ridiculous even for the clueless one-eyed kneejerker brigade. To suggest dropping Meli (our one and only back who has consistently given opposition defences trouble for many years remember) for phantom deficiencies that he has hardly ever displayed in 3 entire years and hardly at all this season, while simultaneously calling for the reinstatement of Foster who this season has consistently made the kind of game-losing errors game-in, game-out, that Meli has never in his career come close to except in the diseased imagination of SaintsFan and her preposterous ilk is an new all-time low in Numpty Fandom. What do these people pack for brains anyway?
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