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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Bring Long back to coach under Brown. Give him Lomax to work on.'"
Now THAT is a good idea. Lomax needs coaching (same for Gaskell or any other halves who may have potential). He needs to learn his role. Longy as a halfback coach would be fantastic.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Now THAT is a good idea. Lomax needs coaching (same for Gaskell or any other halves who may have potential). He needs to learn his role. Longy as a halfback coach would be fantastic.'"
how hard can it be to pass to the right? I dont know why we even have a right side attack, they never get the ball!
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| I obviously haven't seen as much of saints as you all have, but the way I see it is:
Wellens would run all day for Saints, however you need more pace from a FB. Put him at 13 maybe.
Hohaia looks more like a 9 than anything to me. Should maybe be spelled with Roby there.
Bringing in a player like we did with Deacon would be beneficial for Lomax and Gaskell and prob for outside backs too, Wheeler etc.
Do you have any big lads in the academy who could be brought in to freshen up the pack?
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| You could have had Cooper Cronk & Jonathan Thurston playing today and it would have made little difference.
Wigans pack was again dominant, the four Saints props in particular barely made any ground and were put on their backside far too easily. Soliola lost his rag in the first scrum and Wilkin was non existent.
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| Keep your filthy thieving mitts of Briers
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"how hard can it be to pass to the right? I dont know why we even have a right side attack, they never get the ball!'"
Us in the East Stand were shouting for the ball to be passed to the right. Our fastest edge never gets the ball. And then, to compound problems, our kicks all went to the left as well, even when there was a space the size of Australia on the right!
We just don't have a single thinker on the pitch. And I include Robes in that because more often than not the move to the left begins with him, and everyone else follows like sheeple.
I didn't expect us to win today because I saw nothing in our performance against Wakefield to suggest we could step up. However, I had hoped to see more attitude in our forwards in particular. But Soliola aside I saw none. So far as everyone else was concerned there wasn't much attitude either, except from Makinson who, as ever, shows no fear or trepidation but steps up in the big games. He should be on the wing as a matter of course, instead of Meli, who, as ever, did precious little in the big game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You could have had Cooper Cronk & Jonathan Thurston playing today and it would have made little difference.
Wigans pack was again dominant, the four Saints props in particular barely made any ground and were put on their backside far too easily. Soliola lost his rag in the first scrum and Wilkin was non existent.'"
We had a lot of territory for a pack that was dominated don't you think?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Keep your filthy thieving mitts of Briers'"
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| Quote ="St pete"I think it's ideal. Then both lomax and Gaskell would learn off briers. Briers has one of the best rugby brains I've ever seen.
Let's bring him home'"
Have you got money on Briers returning to Saints or something?
He'll finish his career out at Warrington then join our coaching staff. You could offer us a few quid I suppose but the tables have turned in that regard. You'd be better off giving your young halves a chance and replace your (finished) full back.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You could have had Cooper Cronk & Jonathan Thurston playing today and it would have made little difference.
Wigans pack was again dominant, the four Saints props in particular barely made any ground and were put on their backside far too easily. Soliola lost his rag in the first scrum and Wilkin was non existent.'"
we had plenty of possesion, and in your half, but could do nothing with it. yes some of that was down to good wigan defence, but more was down to a much less structured attack than yours. Lomax and Lance looked out of ideas from the off
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| Lance could be a devastating runner which is why it bothers me he doesn't take the line on. Against Wakefield he took the line on once and made a break, he did it once as well today and nearly scored. He just needs to run a bit more and would be more effective at Full Back. The same can be said for Lomax with regards to effectiveness.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"In case you didn't notice, Royce Simmons was sacked a few months back. The coaching decisions are now down to Rush.'"
It's not often I post I here but you talk utter tripe. I sit in amazement at the rubbish you post. You've become a laughing stock on here.
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What did you expect from rush? He was left a complete mess to sort out. The players had no confidence, we was on our worst run ever, to many young players being relied on and I just couldn't see where the next win was coming from.
Rush and KC have come in and restored some confidence in the team but what can they do in 2 month with the mess Simmons left us in?
He's brought in lance hohaia to play stand off which was a horrific idea. He's brought in boof to play prop when he's a backrow.
The problems stem from the Simmons mess and IMO rush and KC are doing ok sorting out the Simmons mess until Nathan Brown arrives.
Your constant championing of Royce Simmons and lance hohaia is laughable!
Royce Simmons is the worst coach we've ever had fact!
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| Time for a change to get rid of our predictable play, Gaskell @ 7, Wheeler @ 6, Lance @ 9, Roby @ 13, with a bench spot for Lomax. Stuck with the pack we,ve got.
Might as well try a few structure changes because top 4 is a bridge too far at the moment unless there is an implosion of the top teams.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Time for a change to get rid of our predictable play, Gaskell @ 7, Wheeler @ 6, Lance @ 9, Roby @ 13, with a bench spot for Lomax. Stuck with the pack we,ve got.
Might as well try a few structure changes because top 4 is a bridge too far at the moment unless there is an implosion of the top teams.'"
I don't think Gaskell and wheeler would work. Wasn't that the halfback pairing at Bradford?
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"It's not often I post I here but you talk utter tripe. I sit in amazement at the rubbish you post. You've become a laughing stock on here.'"
What? I posted utter tripe when I responded to Pete's post by stating a fact? The fact is, Simmons was sacked two months ago. Or is Simmons still coaching us? I missed that memo ...
So, troll, go back to your idiot friends under the bridge.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"What? I posted utter tripe when I responded to Pete's post by stating a fact? The fact is, Simmons was sacked two months ago. Or is Simmons still coaching us? I missed that memo ...
So, troll, go back to your idiot friends under the bridge.'"
Temper!
I just can't hold back at the utter crap you post. We sit and laugh in our office at you, your a joke on here!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It doesn't matter. Is our fullback good enough? No. Are our outside backs any good? No. Are our forwards good enough? No.
We're a mid table side and it will take Brown 5 years to get the squad into the right shape to challenge for trophies again.'"
Correct.McManus may have built a new stadiun but he ahs allowed the great team of 2006 crumble and recent signings have been sub standard to say the least
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"I just can't hold back at the utter crap you post. We sit and laugh in our office at you, your a joke on here!'"
I'm glad you find me entertaining.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I'm glad you find me entertaining.'"
Agreed.
Rush and KC are Inexperinced but they not pretending to be first team coaches. Their boss asked them to do a job and they are doing it as best they can. (better than Simmons)
Some players have got the wrong attitude and I'm sure Nathan Brown won't stand for that.
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| Quote ="Ninja saint"Rush and KC are Inexperinced but they not pretending to be first team coaches. '"
However, that is what they are and so they have to take responsibility. They aren't children.
Quote Some players have got the wrong attitude '"
Glad you agree with me. After all, since you are obviously a keen reader of my posts, you will know that I have been saying this all season long.
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| a bit far that
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd seriously take briers on a one year deal. He's experinced, clever, good kicking
He'd be great for likes of Gaskell and lomax to Learn off. .'"
You don't know how long I have waited for one of you lot to post this.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"You don't know how long I have waited for one of you lot to post this.
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Maybe st pete knows something. I know st pete through friends and he's a drinking buddy of lee Briers.
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