Dear oh dear. New levels of stupidity hit right there.

Neither would start in their respective positions for Wire.

Hodgson > Tomkins
Monas > Roby

Definitely the best english players by some way.

Quote ="Nikaed"Neither would start in their respective positions for Wire. Hodgson > Tomkins Monas > Roby Definitely the best english players by some way.'" Have a quick look at these stats before you revise your opinion on Monas & Roby. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011

Quote ="Nikaed"Neither would start in their respective positions for Wire. Hodgson > Tomkins Monas > Roby Definitely the best english players by some way.'" Have a quick look at these stats before you revise your opinion on Monas & Roby. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011

Roby is better than Monaghan.

Newton deserved boing, he had gone out of his way to deliberately injure an opponent, and celebrated when he succeeded. He was a blight on the game, that should never have worn the GB jersey.

Tomkins is in a different league, he may be a cocky little nerk, who tries to cheat a penalty out of opponents, but is nothing compared to Newton.

It was just a bit of fun in a meaningless match.

Booing Ratboy was not called for, but I must admit to being impressed when Meli munched him in the in goal area. Top tackle Francis!

Jeez man , are you on drugs ? Roby has moved up to a different level since the king retired .

Was sorely missed last night .

Quote ="curly990"Have a quick look at these stats before you revise your opinion on Monas & Roby. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011'" He also needs to revise the stats for Tomkins - Hodgson apart from goals kicked and try assists Tomkins has played 1 less game and is ahead on almost all stats and some by a wide margin. For a full back the missed tackles is a a biggy and i was rather shocked to see Sam has got less than Hodgson. As for Roby hes better than Monaghan.

Quote ="curly990"Have a quick look at these stats before you revise your opinion on Monas & Roby. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011'" He also needs to revise the stats for Tomkins - Hodgson apart from goals kicked and try assists Tomkins has played 1 less game and is ahead on almost all stats and some by a wide margin. For a full back the missed tackles is a a biggy and i was rather shocked to see Sam has got less than Hodgson. As for Roby hes better than Monaghan.

Nobody likes cheats. Nobody should applaud cheats. Tomkins is a cheat.

Tomkins is a very, very good player and put a great performance in last night. He's a player that opposition fans will always hate, but that hate comes from jealousy. Booing him playing for England is just small minded

I wouldn't go that far. That suggests someone actually thought about it - or was even capable of thinking about it and not just following the herd after a skinfull. It was just a bit pathetic and naff really. You'd hope the culprits felt a bit embarrassed in the morning.

That said the reaction from Hemmings etc on Sky sports was ace! Even Peacock's at it today lambasting his own fans for it.

From what I've been told it was about 20 beer boys at it so the public outcry is amazing.

I'm not sure it was. This was posted on the Warrington site by someone who was actually working at the game.



I do however think the majority were Leeds fans. Maybe the RFL should say we'll play next years gams(s) at another venue (your new ground would be ideal).

I'm sure when Mr. Gary (the gob) Heatherington starts to lose revenue he may take some actions.

He would not got booed at Saints.


Mind you after he crossed back across that line and took the shirt off, he may have been subect to a stoning.

Even if he does say ja.....

Do you wana bet?
Ive been at Saints for an England game and It was as parochial as they come.

Dont agree with booing him, but people are entitled to their opinion, but whereas eastmond got booed for being a muppet essential, tomkins is getting booed for bieng good(so opposition fans have a dislike for him), best thing to be booed for though !

Saints fans parochial? Never!

It won't be after November and the JJB isn't your clubs either.

Sam Tomkins is the most exciting player in World Rugby at the moment. Yes, he has his tricks, but referees are not giving him the benefit of the doubt at the moment, so it is costing him. As for being booed at rival club stadiums, thats part of game. But being booed for playing for England, thats not right. The RFL has declared 17,000 (included lots of free tickets), a success; what do they think when Wigan/Saints get nearly 25,000.
As a reward for those so called fans in Leeds, move the next match to an area that appreciates class and their national team. It would also mean that we wouldn't have to pick 2 over the hill Leeds players just to bolster the gates.

Er, I don't think so. There was that young guy in the NSW squad for the Origin match, the one who is a Mormon and going off on mission work for two years. He was more exciting than Tomkins. In fact, a number of players are more exciting than Tomkins. Tomkins is good. But he's not 'the most exciting player in world rugby'!

All of the 34 players involved in State of Origin 2 yesterday, plus many more, are streets ahead of Tomkins in the excitement stakes. As I have said before, with ball in hand, he is a joy to watch.

But he's a cheat.

Nobody likes cheats.

People dislike him as he is good, not the best thing sliced bread but a good player. Plays for Wigan, usually people other than Wigan fans love to hate Wigan. Put the two together and it's not surprising.

Peopl calling him a cheat is a bit strong, cheating is like the betting scandal of Long and Gleeson.

There have been plenty of players who have bent the rules, pushed the refs and tried their best to gain a competitive edge. Sinfield is constantly in the Refs ear at Leeds. Long was always trying to push the boundaries of what was acceptable. McGuire was always playing for the penalty. Tomkins does the same, he is not cheating.

When players in the '90s started to thrash around in the tackle (playing for the holding down penalty) were they considered cheats??

I feel Tomkins treatment by fans and the league is a little stupid and some people are getting rather silly about a young player who is good and even stated by opposition fans as being only good, so why the abuse by fans and some players? Crazy, he's not that good.

Nope. It's because he's a cheat. And petulant. And he kicks out in the tackle and goes in with the knees. That kind of thing. There are an awful lot of good players who fans from opposing teams don't dislike. We just dislike Tomkins because he cheats. And plays dirty sometimes.

You need to look closer to home, Foster milks penaltys all the time, as soon as he hits the floor his legs are everywere like a disabled spider.

You hate Sam because he's class, and he plays for Wigan, same reason you hated Andy Farrell. No shame in it, I hated Sean Long because he was class, and he played for Saints.