No but we ain't got any worse either.

That's debatable. Our defence this year is worse than last, and it wasn't that good last year. I'm sure we've given away more penalties this year than last. And we have ended up as we began the season: looking totally clueless on the pitch. At least in our first match we didn't see half of the awfulness due to the fog.

Roll on our new coach.

It would be the best move for him as a player really, same for any young player playing in this country, if they get the chance they should go.

Hes not good enough for the NRL

JAMES GRAHAM


SPAT THIS BIG TIME


he will get smashed to bits in the NRL

Put it this way, if he tries to be a complete and utter $hithouse and tries to stand on an NRL players ankle like he did with Richards, he will get mullered

i always thought Graham a lion amongst men, but yesterdays effort [ or lack of have changed my mind the lad was useless, full stop. he seemed unwilling to run with the ball and just passed as soon as he got it[That's not a props job}
having said that a number of so called senior players fell miles short of a decent performance Cunningham [ was just just crap wilkin [ a disaster gidley [ did he play ? in fact the only players to earn their pay yesterday were ROBY WELLENS and FOSTER.the rest very poor.

as for Potter thank god the useless gits moving on ! the worst coach ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We should start a poll on who has the lowest IQ and the least knowlege on Rugby, WiganStu (a very poor troll) or the new kid on the block MacBlondie who has either dusted off his Ellegren tracksuit or been a 'lifelong' Wigan fan since about halfway through this season.

James Graham is a class act and would walk into any SL team and most (if not all) NRL teams, he is passionate and it sometimes spills over and he needs to learn to control that.

lolwut? Im a saints fan, but ohnoes, im not allowed to criticise the mighty saints when its warranted.

So you agree with stamping on a player do you?

One thing is for sure if Graham wants to play in the NRL he going to have to take the ball into the collision a lot more than he does now.

I have never seen a prop who gets rid of the ball more before the collision!!

Serious question.

Is this the first signs of burnout?

If it is, then get rid.

OMG we have hit new depths

. FWIW I didnt see it but I wouldnt agree with staming on a player no.

It isnt a serious question it's just another subtle (ish) trolling attempt. Typical Rogues.

Why is it? He asked a genuine question.

That's his style ......... he plays the role in the manner of Lee Crooks. Take the ball up to the line and put the support player through the gap, rather than letting the ball die in contact.

Rogues is out of your league, he is a subtle kind of troll that occasionally raises an interesting debate.

If Graham wishes to go south then I say Ta TA ! he wont last half a dozen games he's burnt out.

Do YOU think it's the first sign of burnout?

It was a serious question.

Oh go on then I'll respond

... No I dont, I think he may be a little jaded from the long season (a long way from burnout) and he was frustrated with the decsions going against him/us but he wasnt alone in playing below his best. I do however think that for his long term future it;s good we have recruited another 2 frontline props for next year.

IMO his performance have dropped off in the last weeks of the season, and I wondered if he was showing those first signs.
I guess we'll see in Aus and next season.
What happened to Fozzard?

Graham really needs a rest, to play all those minutes at prop over the last five or six years must surely take it of him.

Who is the other front line prop beside Perry? I wouldn't call LMS a front line prop.

Fozzard slipped behind Emmitt in the pecking order, he is a shadow of the player he was but I believe he is/was a positive influence on the squad in general. I suppose i was being a little hasty in suggesting LMS will start off as a front line prop but I fully expect him to develop into one over the season and id say he is already at a level above the likes of Foz, Emmitt and Hargreaves

Graham was a joke last night acted like a soccer player with his constant dummy spits, pathetic.

He asked a good question that you spat your dummy out at

surely the idea is to draw the defender in contact and then get the ball out?

Graham doesn't even draw the defender he simply ships the ball on - no wonder he can play 80 minutes - he never gets tackled!!

James Graham has been one of if not the best prop in Superleague for the past four years. I personally think that he needs a good rest, something that he has not had for a while.