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| dear god.. jammer is an exceptional player, and the best prop in the country at the moment, but to say comments like "it's a good job there's no relegation" and "it could be years of the late 90s" are laughable..
nobody is irreplaceable, i admit he's not far off it, but we'll get on with it IF he goes
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| It would be a good move for him, bad for us seeing as there are few good props available. However, he is going to leave at some point, I can't see many players being one club men any more and I think I'd prefer him to go to Aus rather than one of our rivals.
However, as good as he is, we've lost better players and survived, this won't be any different.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"It would be a good move for him, bad for us seeing as there are few good props available. However, he is going to leave at some point, I can't see many players being one club men any more and I think I'd prefer him to go to Aus rather than one of our rivals.
However, as good as he is, we've lost better players and survived, this won't be any different.'"
Better players than Jammer? Such as...
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Better players than Jammer? Such as...
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Lyon.
Platt (perhaps).
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Better players than Jammer? Such as...
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scully joynt perelini and fairleigh
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| Quote ="Father Jack"scully joynt perelini and fairleigh'"
Scully certainly wasn't at that level by the time he left. We lost him in installments.
Joynt retired and again wasn't all that hot when he retired. Perelini was a fine player but again we'd had the best of him. Fairleigh and Lyon were outstanding overseas players, but you never keep those players for long anyway.
I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.
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| Comments [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/10/keith-senior-fine-leeds-rhinos=#FF0000elsewhere[/url on this "growing speculation" - see last paragraph.
With this and key players retiring/moving on, I suspect one or two of you guys will soon be getting some experience in how Bulls fans have been feeling over recent years?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Scully certainly wasn't at that level by the time he left. We lost him in installments.
Joynt retired and again wasn't all that hot when he retired. Perelini was a fine player but again we'd had the best of him. Fairleigh and Lyon were outstanding overseas players, but you never keep those players for long anyway.
I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.'"
well hes not gone yet lets just hes stays
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| Jammer, KC, Gidley, Fozzard, Wellens, Meli and Gardner out.
Sign Paea and promote five 15 year olds from the academy. Sounds like a plan.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Jammer, KC, Gidley, Fozzard, Wellens, Meli and Gardner out.
Sign Paea and promote five 15 year olds from the academy. Sounds like a plan.'"
thought meli had two years go
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| give him ade gardners wages on top of his own.
get a statue of jammer next to KCs
Make him captain of saints, and mayor st helens (not that that is anything to shout about)
Call the new stadium the james graham stadium.
To give him a challange get all our forwards to let him do all the work, Oh Wait......
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Jammer, KC, Gidley, Fozzard, Wellens, Meli and Gardner out.
Sign Paea and promote five 15 year olds from the academy. Sounds like a plan.'"
One fan on a silly forum as mentioned that Pea is part of the package. Funny how rumours spread.
This story as all started by a bloke called the 'mole' who writes a little rumour column in the Aussies RLW. The story is about 2 lines long. It's absolute bullshizer, although atleast it's got people talking.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Scully certainly wasn't at that level by the time he left. We lost him in installments.
Joynt retired and again wasn't all that hot when he retired. Perelini was a fine player but again we'd had the best of him. Fairleigh and Lyon were outstanding overseas players, but you never keep those players for long anyway.
I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.'"
I never said that we'd lost a player at 24, Scully was a far better, and more influential player than Graham will ever be. The fact that we lost him in instalments doesn't mean we didn't lose him, same with Fairleigh and Lyon.
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| Quote ="Loyal Saint"One fan on a silly forum as mentioned that Pea is part of the package. Funny how rumours spread.
This story as all started by a bloke called the 'mole' who writes a little rumour column in the Aussies RLW. The story is about 2 lines long. It's absolute bullshizer, although atleast it's got people talking.'"
If you didn't already know from the content of the post you quoted, I was only kidding.
Rumours like this do start off like this, whispers and 'I've been tolds' all over the place. Sometimes they are completely untrue, it would be good for us if this one was. But they often turn out to be true as well.
It's now on a few internet news sites, obviously picked up by eagle eyed RL writers picking it up from sites like this one. The club will no doubt make a statement on it once it has ascertained if there is any truth to it. But Jammer only has this and next season anyway so it is a time where he would naturally be considering his options before commencing talks with anyone. If his heart is set on Aus, we should let him have the chance IMO.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.'"
Platt.
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| Gutted if this is true.
Good luck to big red if it is.
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| Let's be honest - who in here didn't harbour a faint suspicion Jammer would go to Oz?
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"Remind me again how many games Burgess or James Graham have played in the NRL. Ahh but they arent wiganers are they so its different'"
Nothing to do with it. The lad has very little first team experiance even at wigoon. His debut was last June in the 1st team wasn't it?
Has he played for GB / England seniors yet.
You can't compare him just yet. Hopefully he will become a great player for England but its still early days.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Let's be honest - who in here didn't harbour a faint suspicion Jammer would go to Oz?'"
His skin. He would be the first player ever to be sponsored by a sun lotion.
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| Whilst the end result wouldn't come as a great shock to any of us, there are no quotes or anything in the article. Until one of the clubs confirm a deal, it's just rumour.
If James Graham left us we would be screwed. We'd have to recruit some top quality props to replace him as he does the work of two excellent forwards. Not only that, but he wears his heart on his sleeve. He gives everything for this club and that enthusiasm and passion aren't easy to replace.
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| [i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i
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| Quote ="Mugwump"[i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i
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he didnt know James Graham though.
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| Good luck to him if he goes. He'll find it's no better than Maghull though
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"he didnt know James Graham though.'"
No. But he did know Wally Lewis, Brett Kenny, Peter Sterling, Paul Sironen, Wayne Pearce, Steve Mortimer, Noel Cleal, Eric Grothe ...
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