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| i think its very hard to pick between the two, on ability i couldn't pick, but i'd take graham as he's younger
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i think its very hard to pick between the two, on ability i couldn't pick, but i'd take graham as he's younger'"
Agreed James Graham Is A Huge Prospect But At This Moment In Time Personally It Would Be Jamie Peacock For Me Based On What He Has Achieved In The Game...
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| back on topic (sorry) would fans prefer KC on a new two year deal, knowing he would be around 34 at the end of it, or Scott Moore on 5 year, much cheaper contract? I can't decide. KC is clearly better, but for how long? With moores contract up this year we may have to decide this year.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Exactly...
Stupid Argument Not Worth Getting Into...
Jamie Peacock Is World Renowned Across Rugby League, Where As James Graham Hasn't Got That Exposure Yet...'"
Wasnt trying in start an argument just offering my personal opinion!
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Exactly...
Stupid Argument Not Worth Getting Into...
Jamie Peacock Is World Renowned Across Rugby League, Where As James Graham Hasn't Got That Exposure Yet...'"
Strange that as last year James Graham was voted the worlds best prop, defeating likes of Petero Civonicieva & Steve Price. So clearly he has a great reputation already down under.
This was at the RL international federation awards.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"back on topic (sorry) would fans prefer KC on a new two year deal, knowing he would be around 34 at the end of it, or Scott Moore on 5 year, much cheaper contract? I can't decide. KC is clearly better, but for how long? With moores contract up this year we may have to decide this year.'"
Assuming Moore would want to return to Saints, of course. He may have found his natural home at Udders.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"back on topic (sorry) would fans prefer KC on a new two year deal, knowing he would be around 34 at the end of it, or Scott Moore on 5 year, much cheaper contract? I can't decide. KC is clearly better, but for how long? With moores contract up this year we may have to decide this year.'"
I think KC is going to make that decision. He isn't going to play on like some do, he'll retire early.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Strange that as last year James Graham was voted the worlds best prop, defeating likes of Petero Civonicieva & Steve Price. So clearly he has a great reputation already down under.
This was at the RL international federation awards.'"
I was thinking the same thing. If Graham was on the market now he would have alot of ARL clubs very interested in him.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Strange that as last year James Graham was voted the worlds best prop, defeating likes of Petero Civonicieva & Steve Price. So clearly he has a great reputation already down under.
This was at the RL international federation awards.'"
Let's See How He Progresses Before Comparing Him To A World Class Player Such As Jamie Peacock...
Also Let's See If James Graham Actually Does Go Down Under At Any Time In His Career And Possibly Tries Out The NRL...
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Let's See How He Progresses Before Comparing Him To A World Class Player Such As Jamie Peacock...
Also Let's See If James Graham Actually Does Go Down Under At Any Time In His Career And Possibly Tries Out The NRL...'"
So he as to go to the NRL to show his a world class player ? Bollox.
Ye lets make the NRL stronger while making super league weaker. Great shout!
Gareth Ellis is living proof that OUR plyers can hold their own in the NRL.
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| =redWith respect guys if you want to continue to discuss the relative merits of Peacock and Graham can you open up a new thread please.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"So he as to go to the NRL to show his a world class player ? Bollox.
Ye lets make the NRL stronger while making super league weaker. Great shout!
Gareth Ellis is living proof that OUR plyers can hold their own in the NRL.'"
I Never Said He Needed To Go To The NRL To Show He Could Be A "World Class" Player...
Would It Not Make A GB Team Possibly Stronger?, I'm Sure Playing At That Level Of Intensity Against There International Rivals On A Week To Week Basis Would Do Them No Harm At All...
Adrian Morley And Gareth Ellis (Albeit After 3 Games)...
Then There Is Mark Edmondson, Chris Thorman & Possibly Richie Mathers...
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| Quote ="St Ty"=redWith respect guys if you want to continue to discuss the relative merits of Peacock and Graham can you open up a new thread please.
Ty'"
Sorry Was Typing While This Was Posted And I Didn't See...
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| Quote ="The Joker®"I Never Said He Needed To Go To The NRL To Show He Could Be A "World Class" Player...
Would It Not Make A GB Team Possibly Stronger?, I'm Sure Playing At That Level Of Intensity Against There International Rivals On A Week To Week Basis Would Do Them No Harm At All...
Gareth Morley And Gareth Ellis (Albeit After 3 Games)...
Then There Is Mark Edmondson, Chris Thorman & Possibly Richie Mathers...'"
Edmondson, Mathers and Thorman are all pretty average players who in there time have struggled in super league. They was never gonna make it in the NRL. Same with Tansey.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Edmondson, Mathers and Thorman are all pretty average players who in there time have struggled in super league. They was never gonna make it in the NRL. Same with Tansey.'"
Yes But They Had The Opportunity To Test There Skills Down Under And I Applaud Them For Taking It...
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| i agree to a degree but thethree best players (in my opinion) of the superleague era KC, Peacock, and Farrell never found the need to go to the nrl, while all i believe have had the opertunity
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| who is gareth morley?
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| Quote ="ST STEPHEN"who is gareth morley?'"
Where's Spock when you need to identify an alien lifeform
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder" ( or clay as it is at the moment. )'"
that was his 'slave' name!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i agree to a degree but thethree best players (in my opinion) of the superleague era KC, Peacock, and Farrell never found the need to go to the nrl, while all i believe have had the opertunity'"
Jamie Peacock Never Spent Any Time In The NRL But He Did Spend Time At The University of Wollongong Learning His Trade Of Rugby League...
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Jamie Peacock Never Spent Any Time In The NRL But He Did Spend Time At The University of Wollongong Learning His Trade Of Rugby League...'"
Potential NRL players are obviously trained how to beat women, rape women and get drunk. What did Peacock learn?
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It was a lifestyle choice as much as anything. KC who this thread is allegedly about did at 1 point want to go to Aus (During the Superleague versus ARL war) I read in an interview with him. Things change though and I think his family played a big part in him not going. Talent wise he would have made it np in Aus and so incidentally will Jammer if he decides to give it a go.
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| According to the RL press Cunningham picked up an injury at Wakey. Wonder if he will be playing on Sunday?
Saints must be keeping Fairfield Hospital going just at the moment.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"It was a lifestyle choice as much as anything. KC who this thread is allegedly about did at 1 point want to go to Aus (During the Superleague versus ARL war) I read in an interview with him. Things change though and I think his family played a big part in him not going. Talent wise he would have made it np in Aus and so incidentally will Jammer if he decides to give it a go.'"
Doesn't he have 5 children and an army of dogs ?
That is one hell of an upheaval to make when the alternative is to stay in your hometown, win bucket loads of trophies and get paid well for it.
Cunningham has nothing to prove. Any RL fan with a pair of eyes can see he has been the best hooker on the planet for the past 15 years or so.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"According to the RL press Cunningham picked up an injury at Wakey. Wonder if he will be playing on Sunday?
Saints must be keeping Fairfield Hospital going just at the moment.'"
Roby is due back I think .. or should I say I hope. Would be a massive loss if he didnt make it especially as were probably already without Longy
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